3201

If I were Tyrese being cut loose wouldn’t seem like such a bad idea about now.

3202

Just watched a bit of Talking Dead with Steve Yeun (Glen) and Kevin Smith as guests. What is Kevin Smith up to now, about 350?

EDIT: And yes, he’s very accomplished, and I love his movies (particularly Dogma) but that’s not going to help him come heart attack time. It would be nice if he were around for a while.

3203

He gets to alternate between sitting on his ass all day talking about movies, comic books, and jerking off and traveling around the world talking about movies, comic books, and jerking off with his best friend. And this is is wife:

But yeah, duuuur, hes so fats!! ROLFMAO JKJKJKJK!

3204

Rick and the Governor’s various psychosis evolve. Daryl sticks with this family. After fighting to stay in, Tyrese probably wants to fight his way out.

Tonight’s episode was all about people wanting to stay who should leave, people wanting to leave who should stay, people wanting to leave leaving and people wanting to stay, staying. Kinda funky.

— Alan

3205

And awful. So, so awful.

3206

It was pretty bad.

Andrea: Words! That don’t really make sense! And are completely uninspiring!

Woodbury folk: We’re each going to hug you now, one at a time.

3207

Best part…Rick shutting up Merle.

Worst part…Andrea…die woman die!!! My one beef right now is the Woodbury residents…might as well be cardboard cut outs placed around town.

Otherwise I thought it was ok, a little slow but you can’t have crazy stuff happen every episode or it becomes just one big shock for the sake of shock. It will ramp up as we only have seven left.

Does Rick crack throughout the rest of the comic or does he ever right the ship cause that vision thing will get old?

3208

The comic is completely grounded and does not go into shitty Poltergeist territories.

3209

Every time Rick holds the baby I keep expecting the worst.

He’s looney toons now and everyone can see it. A change in leadership is required, but whom? With Daryl gone, it’s down to Glenn and the new guy, Tyrese. I suspect Tyrese will prove his worth over the next couple of episodes, and the red shirts (the other guy and the teenage kid) will end up as zombie fodder or Woodbury assault casualties.

3210

bleh.

Echos of Lost going off the rails here for me:

Lots of characters I’m supposed to care at least a little bit for that I wish would just die. And now Rick is starting to be one of them.

Interesting bad guy that they don’t seem to know what to do with (granted Ben Linus was infinitely more interesting at first than the Governor ever was).

Lots of stupid characters going way out of their way not to communicate with each other over basic things, causing lots of silly drama.

Subplots (with obvious resolutions and not much interesting character development) that don’t need to exist.

etc, etc.

3211

You don’t have to have crazy stuff happening every episode, you can save some for focused character development, but it would be nice if the character development made you care about characters you are supposed to care about rather than make you hope they get eaten by a zombie.

3212

The imaginary phone call and conversation is in the comic and much more pronounced is it not? Kirkman has stated that they wanted to continue this theme in the TV show but in a different way than the comic.

— Alan

3213

I don’t recall it, but that might go into spoiler territory as all I have is compendium 1.

3214

Gah everything about that episode was pretty damn lame. Most of it was so incredibly out of character that things bordered on non-sensicle. Andrea…I mean why do we NEED another Lori? sheesh

Still I have no fore knowledge nor have a read the comics but I do have high hopes for Tyrese, Glen continues to be pretty great and seriously the scary looks that Carl gives are just creepy.

3215

Gah everything about that episode was pretty damn lame. Most of it was so incredibly out of character that things bordered on non-sensicle. Andrea…I mean why do we NEED another Lori? sheesh

Still I have no fore knowledge nor have a read the comics but I do have high hopes for Tyrese, Glen continues to be pretty great and seriously the scary looks that Carl gives are just creepy.

3216

So I gave up on this show after seasons 1 epicly stupid finale. I had heard how bad season 2 was, so I never watched it.

Over christmas, I had run out of shows so I plowed through season 2 and the first half of 3. Was willing to overlook many of the obvious criticisms and just watch zombies on tv.

Then this episode sucked me back into the ‘I only have one life why am I wasting it watching this shit show?’ mode.

3217

See now I don’t get the gripes from most people…sure it has many flaws but then again so does every other show on TV. It’s still one of the best shows on and it has zombies. Enough for me.

3218

I dunno, I already care about these characters and that doesn’t go away because of a single episode. I’m worried about Glen. I’m very worried about Rick. The other guy with Tyrese was upsetting with his law of the jungle bs. The scene in the woods with Merle was suitably tense. And Daryl’s going off with him was logical and sad and surely a mistake, just as it was supposed to be.

Rick is becoming a real problem for the group and I’m interested to see how that pans out. And yeah, Rick holding the baby was prolly the scariest moment in the whole episode.

3219

Turn off your brain before watching the show. Makes all the difference.

3220

Well, it wasn’t the strongest episode in the third season, but I don’t understand all the hate - this was a “catch your breath and observe the fallout” hour, and that’s pretty much what happened.

Rick’s anxiety attack/hallucination/going nuts when he was effectively being forced to take responsibility for another group of lost lambs was jarring, mostly because you don’t often have the heroes of TV shows going insane. But it made conceptual sense to me that his neurosis would take the form of his dead wife whom he failed to adequately protect… and we’ve already seen/heard him hallucinating this before, so it’s not out of left field.

I was annoyed that his ravings were carefully worded to be taken out-of-context by everyone in that particular situation. There seems to be a lot of that going on this season.

Andrea staying with the Governor despite his increasing cartoon-villainy is harder to justify. I think that the girl who got shot at Andrea’s side during the rescue attempt was supposed to have made a bigger impression on the audience than it did on me: this was the girl that Andrea was supposed to be friends with and I think her death was supposed to hit Andrea hard, but I don’t think we as the audience saw enough of any relationship to make it work.

Andrea assuming a leadership role in Woodbury could be interesting; it certainly could take the final confrontation in an interesting direction.

I liked the scenes with the baby, particularly how she started to cry when Rick held her. Nice touch.

I liked all the scenes with Glenn, Maggie, Daryl and Merle. I thought that everyone acted in an understandable (for their particular situation) way. Glenn wants Merle dead; Daryl doesn’t want his only remaining family to be killed. Glenn and Maggie and ashamed and traumatized by their experiences and don’t know what to do or how to act. Rick couldn’t let Merle into the group, but he couldn’t prevent Daryl from leaving.

The only one who was acting irrationally was Merle, but that’s consistent with the character.