I’m sure they’ll wrap up the Woodbury stuff this season, but probably not until they split some cliffhanger over the finale/next seasons premiere. This storyline should have been like 6 episodes max, not a full season.
Oh, I disagree. I actually think this whole Woodbury thing was pretty good up until the writers decided to take a knee on the one-yard line.
Why does Rick hate Michonne so much? Because she left them when they raided the town? I mean, she snuck off to assassinate the Governor.
JFrazer
3304
I didn’t get hate from him, more of mistrust. I mean, the first impression was “lady covered in blood carrying baby supplies and telling him that 2 of his people were kidnapped”. Followed by her being an obvious loner and loose cannon. And he’s shown that he pushes away anything he wouldn’t trust with his life.
I thought the episode was fine, personally. It established some of the tension to come, showing that neither side is willing to negotiate. There was always that lingering question of can’t we all get along, and this episode answered that.
Was it just me, or did the Governor’s eye look rather infected when he was peering at the wound in the mirror? Wasn’t sure if that was the point of the scene or not. If so, I see a zombie-governor in the not too distant future. Possibly even being the source of Woodbury’s destruction.
Side note on a negative side: I’m not really feeling like zombies are dangerous at this point. Every zombie death recently has been because someone is being stupid or in a scene that makes no sense (2 weeks ago, the abled bodied guy someone being taken down in an open park in the middle of town when it’s so easy to outrun a biter). In giant swarms it makes sense, just purely being overwhelmed. Lately it’s been all onesy-twosy zombie encounters. Shouldn’t the prison be surrounded by zombies by this point due to the noise of the gunfire? During the season premier, the survivors were using gestures and silencers to avoid attracting a horde; now it’s stand-up gunfights with fully automatic weapons without repurcussions.
tgb123
3305
Other than the obvious answer (it increases the “icchh” factor, making for better TV), why does EVERY walker have to be in such an advanced state of decay? What about the recently deceased? Certainly there have to be a few people wandering around who just died that morning either from natural causes or disease.
corsair
3306
Dang, Walking Dead rated higher this last week than anything on NBC.
JFrazer
3307
Oh man… that would make for such a great scene from the show. Rick and crew run into a group wandering down the street. They look perfectly fine, dressed in normal clothes, no decay, maybe a little dirty looking but nothing they haven’t seen on other survivors. They stop their cars, get out to talk to the people, and one of them lunges and bites at Glenn. They all turn out to be recently turned zombies who died when pneumonia swept through a colony of survivors.
Pogo
3308
That could have been avoided had they just let Michonne explain why she went back there and what exactly she did, but they’ve decided to just keep her quiet.
She’s a lone wolf. He’s a group guy.
He correctly reads her as focused only on her own goals (which for a short period, included Andria). She reveals only as much information as needed to get what she needs (e.g., no mention of Andria, even though she knew that Rick was Andrea’s old group) and acts the same way.
Rick can’t trust her to give a rat’s-ass for the needs of the group.
On the last episode, it wasn’t bad. It just felt that filler material.
That’s a good point. Even in spite of her killing prowess, she is still a potential threat to them because she has no real investment in their survival.
Pogo, I didn’t realize he actually didn’t know. That’s the worst plot device in all of television.
Even if they didn’t have the Woodbury situation, they’d have to move on eventually because they don’t do shit to improve their environment, they just find a place to exist and sit there until something drives them off. The group doesn’t plan, it just reacts. They haven’t even bothered to locate the breaches that are letting in zombies, let alone close them. That’s just lazy on an epic scale. There’s no way in hell they were ever going to do something as ambitious as plot crops. Even if they did, they’d probably forget to harvest them, then make an offhand comment about that a half dozen episodes too late.
garin
3312
Unlike the comic, the show has never really given them a chance to settle in and relax at the prison. Their members are constantly being killed or kidnapped, and they lurch from one crisis to another. It’s not surprising that their big plans haven’t worked out.
HEX716
3313
semi Spoiler alert!!!The Michonne, Rick thing will be mostly resolved this coming episode…It’s going to be pretty much just Carl, Michonne and Rick for most of the episode…bonding time. Plus a surprise special guest…
It’s not as if each crisis actually interrupts something they’re doing. It interrupts a whole lot of nothing. Finding the zombie leaks isn’t even something that takes large chunks of uninterrupted time. Build some makeshift barricades, clear a small and area and lock it up or barricade it when you need to stop. Start again the next time you can. And, you know, circle the perimeter at least once, for fuck’s sake.
I was hoping the next episode would be Andrea sitting down to watch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Opposite
What I got out of this season is Rick made one trusting decision(letting the prisoners live) too many and he knows it. So now, partially unhinged as he is, he’s overcompensated to the other extreme, trust no one. This is why Tyrese and his people stood no chance to join them and why Michonne is persona non grata from the start no matter what she does. Maybe somewhere down the line Rick finds his equilibrium and a middle ground where new people are concerned. Also, it makes for an interesting contrast, with Rick(the good guy) kicking people out while the Governor(bad guy) is friendly and takes them in.
I enjoyed this episode a lot, I thought it was riveting to be honest. Carl telling his dad to step down was a great scene. Rick’s expression after was gold, that’s how he knew his kid was a man. Andrea I can completely understand. She NEEDS normality and the town is it. She saw the prison, she saw what Rick’s group could offer her, and normality ain’t it. Is she really going to risk her life to help them so that best case scenario she can live in that prison in those conditions? Haha, no. Carol’s suggestion was awesome, since it’s inline with her latent Machiavellian tendencies. I haven’t forgotten how she tried to get Daryl to either take control of the group or lead a subgroup away from Rick. I hope they explore that more in her character’s future. Merle is great, he’s actually playing it pretty smart. Stick with your brother, help the group albeit in a jerky way, but don’t defy Rick or otherwise get in people’s faces. He’s still Merle, so the group has no reason to see him as playing some angle, like they would if he tried to be Mr. “I turned over a new leaf” nice guy.
Finally, that scene where the Governor reviews the troop- comedy gold! “I had a bb gun once…but my mom took it away.” What a hilarious doofus! Would it have killed him to at least say “I used to hunt squirrels with a pellet rifle” or something else semi-respectable? But that’s just the kind of Goobers the Governor is stuck with.
I used to bull’s-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They’re not much bigger than a zombie.
DrDel
3318
I thought it was pretty stupid b of them to hide behind wooden crate s looking for snipers
Easy sniper bait headshot…high risk place for a dad to leave his son
HEX716
3319
The problem with the prison is it’s built to keep people in, not keep people out…it’s just not made as a fortress like you would think. Many problems, as they are finding out, come from this. They need to move on eventually to find a better “home”. Does anyone really want to live for the rest of their lives in a depressing gray walled prison?
I thought they saw the prison as a temporary home, until they could sort of build up their group’s supplies and strength and move on. Then the baby is born. Now they can’t really be on the road, it’s simply not an option if they want that baby to have a shot at living. So here we are.
As far as the hiding behind the crates thing, I chalk that up to certain things you have to accept in order to have a show. In reality, if it were me as Governor, I’d simply send out a sniper team at random times. Their job would be to sit out in the tree line around the prison and wait for someone to make a supply run- snipe them and return to town. Repeat. Sooner or later the prison people would be dead from gunfire or starvation. The problem is this approach would take weeks to work more than likely, and that doesn’t exactly make for great tv.
So I accept that the prison lookouts need to be outside, even though it exposes them to sniper fire. The visuals take precedence here.
