Finally watched it, overall a great episode. Some people have already nitpicked at the minor things that bothered me, but there’s one that got missed: if Daryl was so annoyed to lose an arrow, he could have just cut the guy down and gotten it back. But yeah, he is easily my favorite character now.
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I noticed that as well but forgot about it until now. At the time I was like WTF, he’s going to shoot Shane by accident.
It is hard to defend but to me it seemed pretty clear, one person dies so another one lives or they both die. In fucked up situations there are only fucked up solutions sometimes. Even if someone has to die I’d try and limit their pain.
I know the spoiler-phobic among you will not do this anyway, but I advise you not to watch the sneak preview of a bit of next week’s episode on the AMC web site. It implicitly spoils a major plot point.
You know, what they should have done there, and one of the things that makes Breaking Bad as good as it is, is they should have recognized what just happened and taken the piss out of themselves for just a second. Just having Shane flinch and then look up and yell “Seriously!” would have been nice. I do hope that they find the opportunity to infuse just a little bit of humor into the show. Six hours of grueling torture is one thing, but thirteen is quite another.
Enjoyed the episode, but bummed by what it means – spoilers if you haven’t read the books:
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…Shane was probably inevitably doomed anyway, since he’s been on borrowed time compared to the book, but this incident essentially seals his fate – I kind of hoped he’d make it out of this season, but there’s clearly no chance of that happening now. That said, this episode also is the first time someone from the books has been killed in different circumstances (and much earlier) than in the books…I really hope the show carves its own path instead of following the books. I’d like to see the prison make an appearance, and Michonne - seems like Merle seems destined to be the Governor or a similar character…but I don’t really want to see anything else from the source material used.
further book-based reasoning
I think it’s very likely that either at the mid-season break or in the finale they still do that scene, because that’s one of the key scenes from the comic. After that, Shane gets dropped out of the lead cast. Which would also save a little bit of money, so it would be consistent with AMC’s current preoccupation with keeping the costs down for whatever reason. I think that if the show had received a conventional order for the first season, instead of its weird six episode not-really-a-backdoor thing, Shane would have died in the first season finale, but the compressed nature meant that there just wasn’t enough time to mine all the gold out of the whole “I was shtupping your wife” vein and make the shooting really hit home.
Walking Dead renewed for Season 3.
Apparently it is still drawing the most viewers of any cable TV series in history in the coveted 18-49 market shares.
My concerns about the series that started from Episode 2 of Season 1 have not gone away. 6th grade level philosophical conversation and moralistic hand wringing paired with sparse, unsatisfying action scenes.
If I have to watch Rick pray one more time I’m going to throw something. I’m a fan of the books, but it’s not the deviations that bother me, it’s how poorly written they are, how poorly the actions of the characters are justified by the writers (and, honestly the actors Jon Bernthal ). Perhaps I’ve overrated Kirkman in the past and his ear for dialog, is really this bad. I wish the brutal, unsentimental attitude he had towards his characters in writing the comic had carried over to the show. I mean, you’ve got characters like T-Dog (how could name a character T-Dog?) that are just sad wastes of screen time, if you can’t ice him just for being such a shitty actor I don’t know what hope we have.
My investment in the comics made the show a must watch for me, and it’s getting harder and harder to keep going.
I’m on the other side of the street.
I pretty much disliked the horror/sci-fi angle of the season finale (with the CDC), but I really like the fact that they are taking three entire episodes to try and find one lost little girl.
And while they haven’t spelled it out too heavily, I like the central (and growing) moral question here: when you have only a handful of humans left, how hard to you fight for one of their lives? Do you risk two other people to save one? How about six?
Sure Rick’s histrionics were annoying, and Lori’s sudden doubts as to the worthiness of staying alive were kind of from left field, but these are the types of things that people should be exploring at the end of the world.
I thought Lori and Rick’s conversation about whether Carl would be better off alive or dead was pretty worthy. I think about that every time I watch this show.
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I’ve enjoyed this season thus far but it feels like nothing is happening.
Pogo
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Yeah but it took WAY too many monologues about family and suffering and bullshit (from several characters) before getting to that somewhat more controversial topic.
Steve_G
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Not really liking this season at all so far. It is way too melodramatic and the pacing seems way off. I don’t mind at all that the show is deviating from the comic, in fact I welcome it, but somehow Kirkman and company have managed to make a show with zombies completely boring.
Daryl is an awesome character , and is really the only interesting thing, besides the zombies themselves in a series that has become so vapid that I really couldn’t give a shit if all the other characters died in the next episode.
That would just leave Daryl, his crossbow , his chopper and lots of zombies to kill. Bring it…
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Yeah I imagine a lone-wolf series with someone like Daryl would be pretty awesome.
Raife
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Yeah, I’d watch the Daryl zombie show. Really, Shane just needs to die so we can ditch some of the melodrama for more zombie survivor action, but that’s probably not going to happen. Shane is like the anti-Daryl. Rick is even annoying me now.
I think that’s the worst part of it for me. They’ve turned Rick into such a whiny goody-two-shoes loser. “Let’s elect the guy who likes to sob and pray and then sob some-more our Chieftain!”
“Sounds good 3-toed Wendy.”
Well, I’m usually not as hypercritical of this show as some of you, but that was one boring-ass episode.
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The only bone they threw us was the forwardness of the daughter towards Glen.
The ending of Glen’s trip into the well was just plain stupid, too. They could have made him look like a smug hero while he was in the well instead of trying to do some throw-away one-liner that made no sense given that all we see is him panicking and flailing around. Very, very dumb.
That entire well thing was idiotic. First off, who would even consider drinking out of that well again? That zombie has been soaking in it, little bits and chunks flaking off into the water! There are other wells available, which the characters know about. Next, that well belongs to the farm people, who the hell are Rick’s people to decide what to do about it? Then, no one thinks to use a backup to the pulley? And Glen doesn’t bring a ‘if something goes wrong’ instant kill weapon? And their plan to keep the well clean amounts to dragging(ie scraping) a Jr Otis sized rotting flesh zombie along the jagged edge of the well? Tdog couldn’t at least use a stick or something to pivot the legs out? And they decide to use the horse for THAT part? And Tdog makes a smart ass remark when he had jack shiat useful things to say before they started this operation?
It was like whoever came up with that scene deliberately wrote it in such a way as to make them do every last thing in the most incompetent way possible. This was the Three Stooges without the laughs.
