pg1
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Um, wow, those well scenes were horrible on so many levels. This season is not going well. Do they not have the budget to do the show properly? I watch this show for zombies, post-apocalyptic survival and horror. Compared to the first season all of those are slim and it seems each episode we get less and less. Most of the scenes and dialogue felt like pure filler. How many scenes can they put in of two people talking to each other trying to emotionally connect? Easily the worst episode so far. Season one was epic while season two to me is quickly becoming very forgettable.
Part of what makes it so frustrating to me is they are so close to doing it right. The pharmacy scene between Maggie and Glen was pretty good, although Glen didn’t have to be so slow on the uptake did he? I mean, at least let the guy act like he has a pair, c’mon.
But what about the Lori scene?It’s not enough to have her walk out into the clearing and lower her head to cry? They don’t trust us to be smart enough to put two and two together? No, she needs to piss on it right there and then so we don’t miss out, lol. They do have toilets in that farmhouse don’t they, with a sink where you can wash your hands and everything? A closed bathroom wasn’t private enough for her but an open field within a short walk of the occupied RV is?
One thing I’ll give them credit for, that old guy is creeping me out more than the zombies. If I was in Rick’s position I’d want to leave, simply because I’m getting cult vibes off the guy. Those are kind of people who get flaky ideas when the shiat hits the fan. Human sacrifice and so on. I wouldn’t put it past them to cut your throat when you’re asleep if they believe you’re a heretic or something.
This show is to zombies what Twilight is to vampires.
Pogo
1684
Yeah it just doesn’t make sense. It seems like the writers needed filler for the amount of time spent at the farmhouse. This show is afraid to show a passage of time, so 3 days of searching for a little girl has to be this drawn out affair.
I think Glen/Maggie awkwardness was actually done better than in comics. I still can’t say anything bad about Glen as an actor, it feels like he’s doing the best he can with what he’s been handed.
I kinda of enjoyed a slow, character development episode as nice break. It is pretty similar to Breaking Bad, which had many episodes where not much seemed to happen.
I’m not yet as emotionally invested in the characters as I am in Breaking Bad, or Mad Men, but the do need to spend some time developing them. AMC motto isn’t “action matters here”
If they make any more episodes like that, the Walking Dead show will be dead because their entire audience will be asleep. What a stupid episode. This series is quickly starting to circle the toilet bowl.
Spoilers Away!
[spoiler]The whole episode was awful.
The well scene was moronic. Who was going to drink that water after a fat zombie floated in it anyway?
The Glenn/Maggie scene was painful to watch. Could there be any less chemistry between two characters?
“Hi!”
“Hi!”
awkward stare
“Let’s have sex now!”
Could Shame (my new name for him) look any more guilty during the funeral?
Why does Lori need to go into the field right past the camper to pee? And that’s an awfully small knife to carry around in case of a zombie attack. Finally, we’re tired of Lori being a pathetic excuse for a human being. Either kill the bitch off or make her a little likable please!
Even Rick is getting annoying, though I liked his take on God. But otherwise he’s coming across like a whiny bitch. WAHHHH! [/spoiler]
Really, the only compelling character right now is Daryl. That’s it. I’m hoping that the coming dynamic change (not revealing any spoilers, but thanks for the HUGE FAT ONE in the preview of next week’s episode, AMC! Assholes.) mixes things up a bit, because this series is starting to suck.
I have to agree with most of the folks above that this was a wasted episode. The well nonsense was just ridiculous. Pop a cap in it’s head and seal off the well, nobody is going to risk drinking from it after that’s been down there marinating for days.
I thought the scene between Glenn and the farm girl was a good inclusion, but poorly written. I also liked some of the exchanges between Rick and the doctor. Finally, Daryl stole the show this episode with both his solo hunt and his fantastic delivery of his lines in the RV scene. Norman Reedus is far and away the most talented actor in the cast.
I hope this show returns to it’s initial form soon. I’m thinking some of the decline may just be due to the setting, especially since most of the scenes where the characters have needed to go beyond the farmhouse have been fairly good. Once we’re up and moving again the atmosphere should kick in and help cover the often thin writing once more.
I liked how Glenn and the girl have a little “moment” in the shop while their giant zombie magnet horses are right outside tethered in the street. Sure it’s a rural area, but obviously that was a little town main street, there have to be some zombies left around there someplace and leaving the horses tied up ion the open seems like a really dumb move. Farm girl at least should have known better.
Finally saw last week’s episode as well as last nite’s. I thought the latest episode was quite boring, and felt it didn’t do much. As others have mentioned, do we need to be reminded how whiney everyone is (especially rick). It’s like every new episode, they repeat what they are saying in different ways.
We get it. It’s a ZA, they are stressing, they are tired, they are getting on each others nerves, the boy got shot, the girl is missing, the mom is distrsought, andrea is pissed, Shane is still in love with the wife, rick is clueless, they come up with horrible plans… now show some damn zombie action, dammit! It’s seems like were stuck on some long ass episode that won’t go any further.
Oh, what’s up with that water well safety? A hole in the ground, and you don’t keep boards over it so that animals, little children, or the random zombie don’t fall into it. How about raising the well wall above ground?
What the hell is with the whole Shane speech to Andrea about making sure when you decide to kill a zombie, it not like “punching paper”. Of everyone in the group, Andrea is the only one so far who has made the toughest zombie kills. Andrea, up close and personal, kills a zombie with a screwdriver. Andrea also off’s her own zombified little sister with her father’s gun. I think if anyone knows when to make a zombie kill, Andrea is the leading authority here. She’s the one who should be giving this speech, not Shane. Perhaps I was a bit tired, and dozing off a little this episode, but that’s the gist of what I got out of Shane’s little speech."
Also, people, DON’T HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX IN A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. I’m looking at you, Lori and Shane. The rules for How Babies are Made haven’t changed. I hope Glenn and Maggie used one of those drugstore condoms.
That said, other than it being a bad idea to conceive a baby under those circumstances, the baby’s parentage should be a non-issue. Lori hasn’t slept with Shane since Rick’s been back, and when she WAS sleeping with Shane, everyone thought Rick was dead. If the baby ends up being Shane’s, and Rick finds out they were together, Rick’s reaction should be: “Holy shit, poor Shane, having to deal with me being back and being pushed out of Lori’s and Carl’s lives like that. No wonder he’s batshit crazy.”
That’s a good point. Generally men react calmly and rationally when they find out that their wives have been sleeping around on them with their best friends. It’s tough to see how the apocalypse and easy access to weaponry would make much of a difference in this case.
(minor) from the comic
In all seriousness, while I found Rick’s generally quiet acceptance of the truth to be pretty reasonable in the comics (the alternative being a 90210-style drama), I was a little disappointed that it didn’t have SOME kind of payoff, given how many pages of dialog had been spent on the build-up.
Having sex is more exciting when there’s a chance someone can walk in on you. Imagine how much more exciting if that someone is a zombie, the threat of being eaten while…being eaten.
I thought there was a cover on the well. It looked to me like the boards had a jagged hole in the middle as if a fat zombie had walked across the well and busted through. Of course, the rest of the well incident seemed pretty dumb. The whole “Don’t shoot it!” bit was way stupid. That water was ruined as soon as the zombie fell in.
You’re correct about the cover. It had been busted through. They removed it to lower the bait.
I finally got around to watching the first season of this show. Don’t know why it took me so long since I’m a huge zombie movie fan (I even own the horrendously bad “Hell Of The Living Dead” on DVD) and the show has gotten great reviews.
It was FUCKING AWESOME! Acting, direction, cinematography, all of it well done. And I was so surprised at how GORY it was for a TV-14 rated show. My wife who refuses to watch horror films with me watched it and was hooked. After watching 3 episodes back to back I was done but she wanted to watch the next one!
2 more to go then I’ll catch the latest season. Fantastic show.
For those of you who are interested, here’s a making-of video of the well scene.
Pogo
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While I agree with the general sentiments, people that are slamming the Glenn/Maggie scene are completely missing the point. This isn’t something that just happened and is going to be forgotten about.
I guess I’m the contrarian here, since I didn’t find the latest episode that boring, despite the unhappy lack of zombies. It was better than last week’s, mainly because there were no painfully bad bits of dialog where Rick or Lori sit around whining about the Zombie Apocalypse. We did have dialog, but it wasn’t dull. Not even the conversation between Creepy Vet With Stupid Rules and Rick about god. Mainly because Rick wasn’t buying Creepy Vet’s stupidity.
Glenn and Maggie will be coming back, but it felt a little rushed, because this is one of those things that was taken from the comics but didn’t feel too earned in the show. Anonymous throwaway casual sex is more believable when there are more than twelve people in the known universe, but in this case they needed more lead-up than those two looking at each other a bunch.
The premise of the well extraction was pretty damned thin (these zombies don’t look exactly clean and intact), but it was really just an excuse to have a quiet episode where everybody wasn’t running in every direction at all times, and maybe to try for a little bit of humor when the undead fatass ripped in half (which, if that was the intention, showed up with mixed results).
I do wish I had a little bit better idea of the timeframe at this point, though, because the pregnancy is going to have some severe implications if it’s only been, like, a couple of weeks since they got moving. I am, of course, assuming that we’re not operating on American Horror Story Female Biology Rules.
Not as bad of an episode as some folks have suggested, but not the best I’ve ever seen. It’s pretty clear they’re going to have to bail out of Herschel’s Farm by the halfway point of the season, though, so I’m legitimately intrigued as to what they intend to do with the next half.
The last episode was pretty weak, although I didn’t mind the Shane talk with Andrea. I figured that was his way of talking about killing Otis, and it really had nothing to do with zombies - just a way to get it off his chest without truly confessing.
I keep waiting for the motivating factor to get them off the farm. I know it’s going to be coming, although by this point I suspect it’s going to be different than in the comic books (I really expected that to be what this last episode was about). Right now, I’m going to guess that Rick will get some divine message that they have to get on the move in order to increase something called “ratings.”
I also agree that the “let’s leave the horses out in the street of a town where everyone is either a zombie or was eaten while we get it on” to be straining credulity at best. Same for Lori deciding to go out to a field to do a pee test. I get that there’s likely no running water out there, but really - in the middle of the night, making sure nobody saw here leave? C’mon.
