It’s official this show is no longer about zombies but incompetent people who are also klutzes. Apparently a forest environment is more dangerous than zombies. Darryl redeemed himself but what happened was ridiculous. Then when he was coming back I don’t even know what to say it was so stupid (and something they’ve already used once). I’m hoping next show they all die and we get a new cast of characters. I did enjoy this one a lot more than last week however. I thought the opening scene was the best part and I’d like to see more of that story line.

The opening scene was great and I’d also like to see more flashbacks to when things were starting to fall apart. That was the best part of the Dawn of the Dead remake, and it was a lot more interesting than anything this show has done all season. I have no idea why most end of the world fiction doesn’t focus on the actual end of the world. It’s always the aftermath with the small group of survivors, most of whom I don’t really care about.

As someone who is an experienced horsewoman, what happened with Daryl is totally possible. Some horses get spooked by falling leaves. I also thought it was a good example of how even the most experienced woodsman can get into trouble.

Everyone else was pretty annoying, but I think this was an improvement over some of the previous episodes.

Absolutely not true

Remember in Shaun Of The Dead where we meet up with the anti-Shaun Group? Same group of people, much better leader? Maybe it’ll be like that!

Well, in terms of television and movies… that takes pretty big budgets.

Well, I liked the episode. I wouldn’t call it perfect because there were some really stupid moments (like Andrea saying “Aw, who cares about drawing more zombies to the area and the fact that the other guys are about to off that walker - I’ll do a little kill stealing and get the loot & XP. Only three more until I level up in Freaking Moron!”).

For once, I didn’t have too many problems with the angsty moments, although the Maggie and Glenn quasi romance seems pretty weak and the scenes seem too disconnected whenever that’s addressed on screen. On the other hand, I enjoyed Shane’s lecture to Rick about survival and why they should just move on from trying to find Sophia, although it didn’t have quite the back and forth I would have hoped for.

I’m sure it’s possible it just seems like an accident happens in the forest every episode now. Sophia gets lost in the woods, Carl gets shot, Darryl falls twice, then almost gets finished off coming back by Andrea and honestly even when the guys were right next to him they almost started hitting him. There’s also other various accidents like tripping, dropping Glenn into the well and who can forget T-Dog ripping his arm open. Who needs zombies, honestly? These people are lucky to survive going to the bath room, which Lorie felt like doing outside in the dark I might add. It’s becoming a litany of stupidity. At this point it’s so bad it’s starting to become parody.

Says the guy with a barn full of undead.

Aha! So true. If I was with this group, I’d ditch them the first chance I got. If they don’t get themselves killed, they’d get me killed… and most likely, not by zombies.

Travelling with a group of zombies would be an upgrade from this group.

I thought that was a pretty good episode, easily the best this season.

I loved the opening. Really, it was low budget when you think about it, just some distant effects, but it was dramatic to see. Also, I felt like I learned something about their group dynamics by getting a chance to see them pre-apocalypse like that.

Daryl’s bit was pretty good, sort of like Deliverance with zombies(Voight’s climb is what I’m thinking of). I was a bit surprised he didn’t know what to do with the arrow at first, even I a non-outdoorsy type would have done that first thing. Other than that, it was pretty awesome.

I don’t like Herschel, but this episode I was on his side the whole way, that proved to me how effective the episode was. I was shocked at what Daryl did, I was shocked at what the kid did, I was surprised at how the women felt taking over the kitchen was up to them, I was embarrassed for Rick at the position they put him in. I wouldn’t have cared if it didn’t feel real to me.

Herschel was right to be pissed about all of this, including how no one even thinks to clue him in on what is going on, even if they don’t ask permission.

I loved how what was already an awkward dinner got more so when Glen brings up the guitar, oops!

The Glen/Maggie dinner thing was weak. Notes? C’mon! Andrea popping off was great, but Daryl’s “I’m not going to scare anyone walking home this way, no sir” approach was beyond belief.

I generously assumed you were ignorant rather than stupid. My mistake.

I still like the show overall, and I like that a lot of episodes don’t have many zombies - I think it’s been the point from the beginning that Walking Dead is a drama that uses a Zombie Apocalypse as a setting rather than people constantly running from zombies horror-movie style.

That said, I think this season been a step down in its execution. The loss of Frank Darabont as showrunner really shows in how various scenes are manufactured; people are injuring themselves in stupid ways that take you out of the action where they could have easily been injured more believably, etc. It’s not nearly as slick of a package as it was in season 1. Still, I’m not done watching yet!

You wanna unpack that for me Curly? Stupid for what exactly? Knowing it was a comic book? Agreeing with everyone who says it’s too slow?
Don’t get me wrong: it was a TERRIFIC insult but…well…

As a former Emerg doctor at a level 1 trauma center I can tell you that it’s the last thing that should be done. Penetrating trauma should be left in place and removed at a hospital in a controlled environment. The penetrating object could be tamponading (holding back) a bleed, by removing it you can “bleed out”.

But in Hollywood land it’s always the right thing to do.

In reality if you have a large foreign body in you do not remove it (please exclude all sexual references).

I agree that this season has been a let down. I no longer get excited about the coming Sunday night episode when the weekend rolls around.

On another note, peeps were talking about a condo complex as a safe environment.

I just thought of something; isn’t a military complex or a prison a safe environment? Short of a massive bank vault (Fort Knox) I think I would want to be in a prison or military base as both are secured from the outside and both have kitchens and weapons.

I enjoyed that episode, undoubtedly the best of the season so far.

I liked Daryl’s dream/hallucination when he was passed out on the riverbank; the one while he climbed was a bit tougher to reconcile.

Andrea’s pot-shot at him was a nice little touch. The one thing that no one has mentioned is that she did actually hit him in the head at a significant range. That’s a pretty useful skill if she could actually use it against enemies rather than friends.

Hershel’s losing control of “his people” as the episode continued was fun to watch, and the barn should be an interesting topic of conversation next week.

Heck, I even enjoyed Rick & Shane’s conversation in the woods.

The only thing I could have done less with was Lori’s re-run heart-to-heart with Shane. How many times do we have to sit through that same conversation?

Military bases (at least in the US) are less secure than you may think. Most of the security comes from chain-link fence and MP staffing rather than some walls with watchtowers.

This.

When I was stationed on Fort Lewis we had a huge problem with civilians cutting the fence to sneak into the training areas to set up their meth labs.

We did Spring Cleanup one year and found a monstrous pile of empty over-the-counter medicine packaging. :/

Too much fence-line and not enough people to watch it. Never saw a watchtower at all.

Yeah but that’s in this world. In a location like that, in a zombie apocalypse, there are other priorities. You need to be able to move freely. You need that arrow(it looked like his last). Unless you can make it back to the farmhouse, doing the right thing by your wound is pointless. From the start it looked like it was affecting his ability to move, it wasn’t just a case of having something sticking out of you.