Holy shit, that was a great episode from start to finish.
See, that is what I want I want to see from a weekly show about the zombie apocalypse.
DT1
1963
I think he did know. (Which is telegraphed by him gathering up people this episode.)
He just expected them to move on in frustration.
Simply a phenomenal ending to that arc. A+++++ would watch again.
DrDel
1965
jerri,
looks like the issue gets addressed in the next episode in Feb 2012
DrDel
1966
I think weekly massacres would turn people off the show and would only appeal to a small minority.
Besides another child just got offed in this series… I am sure that would upset a lot of Soccer Moms out there.
DrDel
1967
I agree that it was a pretty good ending to the arc.
I only wished that when Rick walked to the front line he looked at Sophia’s mother in the eye and I was hoping she would give him a nod or some acknowledgement that Sophia must die before he pulled the trigger. That would help ease Rick’s conscience since he failed in his task to save Sophia but at least he gained her mother’s approval.
Short of that it was a great episode.
You really are that dense aren’t you? Shooting zombies is probably the least interesting part of a zombie movie.
Alan_Au
1969
For some reason I thought the ending was telegraphed, but I can’t figure out exactly why. Maybe it was the inevitability of Shane’s rebellion that got me thinking about the best way to squeeze some tension out of the situation. Then again, I suppose having Otis or Jim show up would also have done it, but this ending was far tidier.
Shadarr
1970
Spoilar tag removed, because honestly that’s what this thread is. Don’t read it if you’re not caught up.
They asked Kirkman that exact question on Talking Dead. He said that Herschel said “Otis used to take care of this” implying that he was the one who brought new zombies to the barn, and Otis was killed before Rick’s crew told the farm people they were looking for a girl, so Otis never got a chance to mention it and no one else knew he’d put her in.
This was a fantastic hour of television. When everyone talked to each other they all had points to make and were articulate doing it, even Glen. I could feel myself getting more and more tense as things moved along, sensing that it was gonna blow soon.
[SPOILER=]I never liked Herschel but even so I liked him less knowing he had the girl in there all along. His argument that the barn was their business carried weight with me…until it turned out he had something of theirs all along. He was a major hypocrite in that way.
He had to know. Someone brings chickens to them. They know these zombies by name. Put two and two together here. I no more believe they wouldn’t know exactly how many are in that barn than believe they don’t know exactly how many chickens they have left.[/SPOILER]
CSL
1972
Awesome episode and really just puts a lot of the issues of this half-season to rest as everything from the past episodes comes back and impacts this episode in some way. Sure there was still some annoying stuff involving the baby question but whatever. Particularly liked Glenn asking Maggie why she would waste an egg like that.
Even if Herschel knew that Sophia was in the barn, which I’m not sure he did anyway considering Otis dies before the rest of the farm family really knows that Sophia is missing and that the rest of them only go into the place to feed them quickly and since its a barn it is quite dark even during the middle of the day, he has a reason to not tell them since he was banking on the problem going away. He has been consistent in the notion that the group isn’t going to be allowed to stay on his farm.
This episode was absolutely terrific. All that bitching about the well, the baby, etc was worth it for the payoff.
I have to admit as well, great episode! I liked the ending a whole lot. The tension through out the show really did build well into the climatic end.
]At first I felt they should have made Shane kill Sophia, but then… I think Rick felt she was his responsibility. He failed Sophia and her mother to protect her. Also, to show that he did have what it takes to survive a ZA, to make the hard decisions.
Pretty powerful. Definitely changes my feelings about the season (which I hated until the last three episodes). I’ll be slightly more inclined to trust them from now on.
It’s passe to say “I called it”, but I did. I was flipping between Walking Dead and the game, looked over at the wife and said,
Spoiler
[spoiler]
“I bet Sophie is in that barn”.
Sure enough she was.[/spoiler]
They got the ending right, with
Rick
Rick taking care of business.
And now they have Shane in raging full blown dickhead mode, so it’ll be interesting to see where that goes.
Also, you don’t think that Shane…
Dale
Did anything bad to Dale, did he? He said that Dale would be along shortly, but I don’t remember him showing up.
I must have been watching the game at that moment. Thanks!
DrDel
1980
Yes, you are an angry person…