rshetts
1588
The problem here is that the writers chose to employ a unique conceit through which to convey Wanda’s situation and ultimately her inner turmoil. I can see that some people will not be as on board with how they did this and some will. In the end its subjective entertainment and it doesn’t work for everyone. For me, it worked. I decided from the start to dump any preconceptions I may have had and simply enjoyed the story that they chose to tell. Not all of their creative choices took the direction I would have chosen but then I wasn’t telling the story, they were. So I enjoyed it for what it was. A tale of incredible trauma wrapped in an insane setting.
stusser
1589
They clearly played it like he had free will, and said chaos magic had the power to alter reality, so my read is that the in-hex Vision was the real deal and not a marionette-- so long as he was inside the hex.
The kids she pulled from some other reality, she didn’t create them herself.
Wanda says he’s taken from her emotions, memories, and whatever part of the Mind Stone remains in her. She could be wrong, I guess, but to me that’s an indication he’s just that - a memory of someone she knew well enough to create an authentic-feeling replica - and the Mind Stone part probably imbued with the ability to act beyond her dictates. As for the twins…I don’t see any particular reason to believe they actually existed in a real sense, but there will probably be some reappearance through some comic book logic scenario or other.
stusser
1591
Teen avengers show coming up, the kids will be aged and on it.
Nothing has been announced yet, so that’s all assumptions at this point.
stusser
1593
There’s tons of smoke but correct, no fire yet.
Djscman
1594
Same question but for all of us.
Scuzz
1595
We are two episodes in, and no, I have not read anything above this, but if it wasn’t Marvel I think I would have bailed by now.
But I have faith their is more. :)
Some nice details here that you may have missed! It covers episodes 1–3, but there are spoilers for the entire season in there.
Scuzz
1597
Well, I have to admit having faith in Marvel paid off as this series caught fire about 3-4 and finished really good. Lots of things going on and lots of tie ins to other Marvel projects. we all ended up enjoying this.
Next, it’s on to Winter Soldier and the Falcon.
Huh.
I see what they’re talking about in the video clip, but I’ll be honest, it seems like a dumb thing to add, if it was purposeful. It doesn’t even look good. I’d never have noticed the new effect if some site hadn’t pointed it out. Also, it’s just odd to add it now, when everyone is watching other stuff. If I had noticed it, I would’ve thought it was just stream artifacting, in fact, my thought is that it’s a glitch or other camera error.
There’s no denying that the foliage is different, so they did something on purpose to that shot.
That’s really odd. I wonder if the change is for the sake of consistency with a future episode of something, where we’ll see some animated movement of the foliage.
Murph
1601
I mean the trending theory online is that’s Doctor Strange and will tie in to his movie somehow. Maybe Dr. Strange 2 will open with that shot.
It doesn’t make any sense though. The weird outline thing people are saying is Doc Strange is tiny and way too easy to dismiss as a VFX or camera artifact. Why would Marvel put something like that as a stinger? They’ve never been that obtuse or subtle before with their tie-ins.
Yeah, that visual artifact supposedly “moving towards the cabin” is actually staying almost completely still onscreen; it only looks like it’s moving because the camera is flying in. It does appear to be moving slightly though, so my money is on some sort of lens flare.
Or to put it another way: I don’t think that Marvel would edit a shadow of a barely-visible character into the post-post-credits scene of a show that everyone’s already done watching, just to tie in to a movie that’s coming out next year.
Murph
1604
I mean it doesn’t make any logical sense that I can see, BUT, they cleared edited that scene in to some degree, so…why bother at all?
I dunno. It’s all weird to me.
Not a thing, just an editing artifact apparently.
Right, but to be clear: They did update that scene, and they did change the foliage.
Not sure why. I don’t think I saw anyone complain about the trees when it first aired.
Murph
1607
Well that’s an extremely clever discovery!
Yeah, that’s what I keep coming back around to. What were they even doing?