Warhammer 40K: Darktide (2022) (4-player co-op from Fatshark, the Vermintide devs)

In theory, this system should be better than the random lootbox system they had before for giving players less crap that they didn’t want, and it’s interesting that almost nobody I’ve talked to, on and off this forum, likes it very much. Maybe just unrandomizing it a bit to ensure you’re always getting more options would fix it? Or maybe letting you reroll for a small price? That would mean less grinding though, so I guess that’s unlikely.

Maybe it’s perfectly designed to be just frustrating enough!

It could be paired with something. Maybe the “Emperor’s Gift” loot pool would be limited to the unique class gear least, maybe even give you an option of a few different ones to pick or something.

The loot chase should be finding the stats, traits, and blessings you want, IMO. I should always be able to find a particular category of item that I want, even if it’s just grey quality.

I have to confess, with a good computer, the game sure looks beautiful. Better than I thought from watching the trailers. I noticed a pair of settings go up to ‘Extreme’ instead of High, and yeah it looks ever purtier, although I wonder how practical it is, because in some maps the fog effects are denser so it hinders your player performance.

Also, it looks even nicer with the auto-hdr from Win11. Try it if you have a hdr monitor.

On the other hand, it seems it has less content (classes, types of environments) than VT2, so it’s going to be less replayable, at least until new dlc comes in.

Yes, seconded. Although as I learned in another thread, how well auto HDR looks is very display-dependent where it can look like butt even on a nice monitor. In my experience, Darktide looks great with it on.

I had a lot of crashes when I first started playing. It was actually so bad I couldn’t make it past character creation. I was about ready to (really regrettably, I loved Vermintide 2) reach for the refund button, but when I launched Darktide for the nth time (after restarting, updating drivers, etc) and the crash forced my PC to restart, I knew the problem wasn’t with the game. I had been getting the odd CTD playing MW2 the past few weeks and had my suspicions, but a full system restart pretty much confirmed it - there was something wrong with my PC.

Long story short, I was running with DOCP enabled in my BIOS and decided to turn that off and (severely) underclock my RAM to boot. Problem gone (yaey! ~ish). While I was there I also realised I hadn’t updated my BIOS in almost 2 years. So I flashed it to latest, re-enabled DOCP and fortunately the problem remained solved, without the sacrifice of any performance.

I wonder if Darktide is just so CPU/RAM/GPU intensive it’s pushing PCs past the point they’re usually taxed and what appear to be otherwise stable systems start falling over. I literally went from non-stop crashes to playing it pretty solidly this weekend without a single issue, all because (apparently) my mobo didn’t want to play nice with my RAM without special… BIOS sauce, or something.

Really enjoying the game, do miss those rattys tho. They had more personality. Future DLC/sequel suggestion: Greentide.

For me, capping my frame-rate to 60 greatly reduces my crashes. So there is something to that, about it over-taxing your system or something.

Could be! Although it doesn’t seem to be taxing my system too much – my computer usually turns into a space heater when it’s being pushed and I haven’t noticed anything like that. I hadn’t had much in the way of crashes until yesterday, but it seems like it’s one map in particular that was the culprit (I don’t know the name of it offhand). Zero problems the rest of my play session.

I want to like this.

The minute to minute gameplay is great but it get repetitive. There are 3 levels. 1) Boss w/shield and knockback. 2) escort the team mate carrying something. 3) use a doohickey to find something. Throw in fighting along the way. I will play a round and then wonder why I want to queue up again.

I feel like I really need “a grind” to push me forward. The grind to collect foozles, or new abilities, or to try new characters or get better loot.

My Darktide Review:

Gameplay: Great
Loot Meta Grind Game: Awful. I ended up playing Battlefield 2042 instead this weekend.

Once upon a time, a horde shooter was just something you jumped in to. There were no grinds for better loot, no better gear (just what you grabbed in the level), and when the level/campaign was done, you got a final scoreboard showing how many mooks you killed and how many your friends killed. Your reward was that you got to brag about surviving the campaign and talking to your friends about those “whew that was close” moments or trash-talking inferior play.

Now it’s all about logging on and sitting around the epic gear shop until it refreshes. Actually playing the levels is all about efficiently scoring equipment with slightly higher numbers. The gameplay is less polished and tweaked because it doesn’t matter - it’s merely a shiny object delivery slot machine.

Guess something got lost on the way from here to there.

With the new update in Gamepass, I stopped crashing upon exiting the game! But I still can crash inside the game!
Progress?

I just loaded the patch and my game is now a slide show. Performance has gone through the floor. And it was perfect yesterday.

Check your settings. The update resets them, and it turns RTX on.

I got it wrangled back to playable, but my crashing went from twice a night, to once per match so I think I’m waiting for another patch.

QFT

Yeah, every single patch they reset your video settings. It is really annoying.

I have kind of put this game down unless I have a friend who want’s to co-op in it.

They really need some varied boss fights, not the guy with the shield all the time. There should be like 10 to 20 unique bosses to fight.

They could mix up other things too, like the servitors skulls crashing. It should be random. Maybe they never crash and you have non-stop combat for a few minutes or maybe they crash 4 times.

Basically they need to add some random variations to every level to try and reduce the repetitiveness of it all.

Also the loot system sucks. I have tons of crafting ingredients and never have a reason to use them. It would be nice if we could update the base stats of weapons. However doing that would eliminate the need to go shopping for gear.

I’m still crashing over half my games, with the thread count already reduced, so I give up. I will try in a few weeks again. Because sure is nice to crash 20 min in a match and not win any xp or gold (rejoining rarely works, too).

DF make a big deal of how these guys used their own engine… to make what to my eyes is an updated Unreal :)

I had read the gamepass version had been updated too, up to the same version in Steam, so I reinstalled the game to see if now I could play or it was a crash-fest like before.
I played a full game, then went to dinner, now I want to run it again and…


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Cool. cool cool cool.

Is it your GOTY?

Thanks for the Digital Foundry link. Main takeaway: I want a new graphics card! In the meantime, here’s a screencap from the video: