Warhammer Online: September 18, 2008

[JM1]

What bugs did they exploit? All the article mentioned was that the Order side were claiming the raiders exploited “a bug from the patch”.

A lot of T3/T4 captures are being aided by bugging through walls, and in Altdorf’s case going through the Order-only back door.

Add to that the fact that a fair number of people have abused bugs to get to 40 and wahey

edit:

Appearantly they could enter a rear door that should only be useable by Order and therefore skip the raiding of the main gate.
To me that is clever use of game mechanic and not an exploit.

If the developers are not happy with it they should patch it. Simple as that.

Errr… it’s a door that’s meant to only allow Order through. It’s not a “game mechanic” if destro can get through it, it’s an outright bug and exploiting it is nothing to be proud of.

[RobotPants]

So you’re saying that, when given the choice between spending a lot of time beating down the defenses at the front gate or just walking in the back door, you’d choose to ignore the easier way? Yeah, it’s a pretty ridiculous bug to let through, but surely you don’t expect people not to take advantage of it. If something can be done in an online game, people are going to do it, regardless of whether or not it’s a bug.

[Vincent_GC]

In other news, I got my first scope of the chaos big baddie today. My god is he huge! That’s me directly in front of him for comparison.

[Matt_Perkins]

For the person that said the Warhammer UI is not good…well, I think that’s a bit of an overstatment. It’s not great, per say, but it’s functional and useful and customizable. That’s a lot past many MMOs at launch.

[MikeJ]

So you’re saying that, when given the choice between spending a lot of time beating down the defenses at the front gate or just walking in the back door, you’d choose to ignore the easier way? Yeah, it’s a pretty ridiculous bug to let through, but surely you don’t expect people not to take advantage of it. If something can be done in an online game, people are going to do it, regardless of whether or not it’s a bug.

Well, if the bug was instrumental in their victory it sort of undermines their accomplishment. Whether or not the typical player has moral fortitude to avoid such an exploit, it is still obviously an exploit.

[Jasper_Phillips]

For the person that said the Warhammer UI is not good…well, I think that’s a bit of an overstatment. It’s not great, per say, but it’s functional and useful and customizable. That’s a lot past many MMOs at launch.

I still think it’s bad – all sorts of extra clicks, and iffy response to actions. I’ll agree that it’s as good as other MMOs I’ve seen, but that’s damning with faint praise.

[BlakeD]

This is the first MMO I’ve delved into in years - 4 to be exact since WoW first launched and I only played for 2 months (4 in closed beta). I’m loving my Witch Hunter so far and I’m starting to get the useful abilities I’ve really needed now that I’m within arms reach of Rank 20.

The problem is, under the Career Mastery, I’ve pumped all my points into Path of Judgment and haven’t unlocked either the career renown unlock or the mirror at Level 5. Both are grayed out and yet show that I’ve spent the points. I’m well beyond the minimum rank as well. I’m thinking it must be a glitch.

I noticed a weird thing with the PUWB (pick-up warband) I was with last night. We went from land to land grabbing keeps and battlefield objectives, but since there were only 20 of us we had a bizarre tactic. We’d have the tanks rush the 2nd floor of keeps first, which is standard, but they kept running all the way to the top and everyone else followed. Then we ran out to the edge and dropped down to the 2nd floor rampart, running to one of the corners well out of aggro range. After everyone was ready and buffed, we pulled champions (and the hero) one by one. It was a pretty efficient way to take the keep if no Destro were protecting, but it seemed kind of lame like gaming the system.

Of course, kiting is essentially gaming the system too, but it is inherently part of MMO play now-a-days. I guess anything goes.

[Andrew]

We went from land to land grabbing keeps and battlefield objectives, but since there were only 20 of us we had a bizarre tactic. We’d have the tanks rush the 2nd floor of keeps first, which is standard, but they kept running all the way to the top and everyone else followed. Then we ran out to the edge and dropped down to the 2nd floor rampart, running to one of the corners well out of aggro range. After everyone was ready and buffed, we pulled champions (and the hero) one by one. It was a pretty efficient way to take the keep if no Destro were protecting, but it seemed kind of lame like gaming the system.

Hah. That sounds like the exact same tactic used in LotRO to take NPC-guarded keeps in the PvP zone without having to kill everything. There, in order to pull it off, you usually had to throw an invincibility bubble on the person aggroing everything.

[TheWombat]

Did you actually click on those abilities and buy them with an additional point? Until you do, they ain’t really there.

This is the first MMO I’ve delved into in years - 4 to be exact since WoW first launched and I only played for 2 months (4 in closed beta). I’m loving my Witch Hunter so far and I’m starting to get the useful abilities I’ve really needed now that I’m within arms reach of Rank 20.

The problem is, under the Career Mastery, I’ve pumped all my points into Path of Judgment and haven’t unlocked either the career renown unlock or the mirror at Level 5. Both are grayed out and yet show that I’ve spent the points. I’m well beyond the minimum rank as well. I’m thinking it must be a glitch.

I noticed a weird thing with the PUWB (pick-up warband) I was with last night. We went from land to land grabbing keeps and battlefield objectives, but since there were only 20 of us we had a bizarre tactic. We’d have the tanks rush the 2nd floor of keeps first, which is standard, but they kept running all the way to the top and everyone else followed. Then we ran out to the edge and dropped down to the 2nd floor rampart, running to one of the corners well out of aggro range. After everyone was ready and buffed, we pulled champions (and the hero) one by one. It was a pretty efficient way to take the keep if no Destro were protecting, but it seemed kind of lame like gaming the system.

Of course, kiting is essentially gaming the system too, but it is inherently part of MMO play now-a-days. I guess anything goes.

[McBain]

I’ve got queue times of over thirty minutes today, on a server that’s high (my faction) and full (opposing faction) populations. Ugh.

Also, whatever they patched today absolutely nuked my framerate, and a friend just sent me a similar complaint. Uggghghgh.

[TheWombat]

I have a UI question. My folder structure is D:/Electronic Arts/WAR_Beta/user/Interface/AddOns. I just used the beta install rather than installing anew, so that’s why it’s like that. Anyhow, no matter what add ons I put in /AddOns, the game ignores them. Any idea what I need to do to get them to work?

[MikeJ]

I have a UI question. My folder structure is D:/Electronic Arts/WAR_Beta/user/Interface/AddOns. I just used the beta install rather than installing anew, so that’s why it’s like that. Anyhow, no matter what add ons I put in /AddOns, the game ignores them. Any idea what I need to do to get them to work?

Drop the user part. You need it in “D:/Electronic Arts/WAR_Beta/Interface/AddOns”. People get confused because they have to create their own Interface directory rather than use the one under user.

[BlakeD]

Did you actually click on those abilities and buy them with an additional point? Until you do, they ain’t really there.

That’s gotta be it. Lame. I thought if you got to that level you automagically got the mastery unlock. Thanks though for clarifying!

[Calistas]

Anyone know how a “belt accessory” works? Is it just another word for “belt”? Or is it something you can add to a belt? Weird.

I’m missing grouping. There really isn’t much going on other than random, open groups that mostly head in the same direction at the same time. Maybe it will come later on.

[RobotPants]

Yeah, I haven’t grasped the concept of getting trophies at very low levels to put on my belt and shoulders when the slots for said trophies aren’t available until much much later.

[JM1]

So you’re saying that, when given the choice between spending a lot of time beating down the defenses at the front gate or just walking in the back door, you’d choose to ignore the easier way? Yeah, it’s a pretty ridiculous bug to let through, but surely you don’t expect people not to take advantage of it. If something can be done in an online game, people are going to do it, regardless of whether or not it’s a bug.

It’s still an exploit. What a ridiculous argument this is. They know full well that you’re not supposed to be able to do it, and the fact that they managed to go from entering the zone to capturing a Tier4 end fortress in 15 minutes means they were aware of the bug’s existence.

BlakeD: Don’t feel too bad about having to spend the point - remember that every point that tree buffs the relevant abilities (listed to the right) a level.

[TheWombat]

Drop the user part. You need it in “D:/Electronic Arts/WAR_Beta/Interface/AddOns”. People get confused because they have to create their own Interface directory rather than use the one under user.

Gotcha. That worked. Seems…odd, but what the hey! Thank you!

[MBJ]

I’ve got queue times of over thirty minutes today, on a server that’s high (my faction) and full (opposing faction) populations. Ugh.

Also, whatever they patched today absolutely nuked my framerate, and a friend just sent me a similar complaint. Uggghghgh.

Sorry if this is a stupid question but did you check all your video/graphics setting in the game? We’ve had a number of reports from people and in some cases it turns out that this version wiped their in-game settings. It’s worth going into settings, changing things back to where you want them to be and then saving and restarting the client.

Check it out when you can and let me know if this helps.

Mark

[AlanSmithee]

I noticed that the spam-me-not addon stopped working today. That’s a sad thing.
It also reset many of my UI options. That’s no problem except in the UI manager, I am no longer able to move the chat box. Everything is greened out except for that.

[MBJ]

I noticed that the spam-me-not addon stopped working today. That’s a sad thing.
It also reset many of my UI options. That’s no problem except in the UI manager, I am no longer able to move the chat box. Everything is greened out except for that.

Don’t know about the UI issue but SMN is back up and working and ready for download on Curse.

Mark