We are still screwed: the coming climate disaster


#3584

This is fine.


#3585

#3586

It’s really weird seeing Trump’s real news hatred infect the various agencies, which would normally be at one remove from that. Not weird in a surprising sense, really, just that I don’t think I’ve ever seen that sort of open hostility spread beyond the White House and Congressional leadership press offices.


#3587

They’ve politicized everything they can. We’re about two steps away from them starting a new SS or KGB.


#3588

On the other hand, I can see why they’d immediately go on the offensive. There aren’t many things in the world less sympathetic than chemical companies. The more people learn about the actual policy being made here, the more likely they are to be upset, so best bet is just to head that off from the start.


#3589

Would we know if they already did?


#3590

Maybe that’s Bannon’s new role at Breitbart?


#3591

They are already talking about directly subsidizing coal mining jobs, even though coal has been economically eclipsed by natural gas in almost every way. We are truly in crazy town.


#3592



#3593

Electricity so cheap, we’ll pay you to meter it:


#3594

That doesn’t seem to make sense. I mean, why would they need to take it off the grid? Is it actually gonna overload something if it doesn’t get pulled off?

Seems like someone should be hooking a battery up to it.


#3595

Yes. To a certain extent you can manage fluctuations with pumped storage and so on, but I don’t know how much capacity Germany has for that.


#3596

Shouldn’t they like… have a mechanical battery thing set up?

If you have too much power, even storing it in an inefficient manner makes more sense.


#3597

This is one way to pay people to set up battery systems. They get paid to suck in the power now, and paid to feed back into the grid later.


#3598

Balancing the grid is a big deal, and one of the big potential problems with many renewable power sources. As I understand it, if there wasn’t enough load on the grid, the alternating power cycle rate would go up and that would mess up a lot of things that rely on it being constant.


#3599

Ya, seems like the easiest way to deal with this is to do shit like run a water pump to pump water up a hill or something.

Or buy some of those power walls from Tesla.


#3600

Flywheels!

Bonus: risk of catastrophic failure causing massive explosions!

If i 1) lived off the grid and 2) were a hillbilly and 3) had ample sources of sunlight, i’d make a solar powered water tower/turbine. Pump water up the tower in the day, use falling water to generate electricity at night.


#3601

Bonus: it can also work as a still for your moonshine!


#3602

Same idea, melts salt into lava, then boils water on demand.


#3603

I was out there a few weeks back southwest of vegas, and saw some other crazy looking solar plant… I’ll see if I can find some pictures of it.