We are still screwed: the coming climate disaster


#4567

In the land where bats are dying in biblical numbers due to the insane heat.


#4568

But, sadly, not certain old bats.


#4569

Are those pro-CO2 protestors in Australia? Or is it New Zealand?

I like the graph at least. It’s too bad they don’t have an accompanying one showing the temperature variations WITH CO2 influence.


#4570

lol that idiot mispelled “Juliar” on his sign (Julia Gillard was PM).

Can someone please give that guy a pure stream of the CO2 he loves?


#4571

Well, they’re Australian flags…


#4572

So there are actually Pro-CO2 products for people who want to generate more CO2 for plants in their house. I never knew.


#4573

I think I might design and market such a device. It will made up of several geared cogs connected to a proprietary device in the center that generates CO2 through a mysterious means known only to yours truly.

To power the device, the user need only blow through a connected tube that will move the mechanism inside. Then fresh CO2 will flow gently out of the spicules and supply nearby houseplants with their much-needed air.


#4574

I do not know where to put this, but it’s really surprising:

https://www.flgov.com/2019/01/10/governor-ron-desantis-announces-major-water-policy-reforms/

Governor Ron DeSantis signed Executive Order 19-12 (Achieving More Now For Florida’s Environment), implementing major reforms to ensure the protection of Florida’s environment and water quality.

– $2.5 Billion over the next four years for Everglades restoration and protection of water resources (a $1 Billion increase in spending over the previous four years and the highest level of funding for restoration in Florida’s history).

– The Establishment of a Blue-Green Algae Task Force, charged with focusing on expediting progress toward reducing the adverse impacts of blue-green algae blooms now and over the next five years.

– Instruction to the South Florida Water Management District to immediately start the next phase of the Everglades Agricultural Area Storage Reservoir Project design and ensure the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers approves the project according to schedule.

– The Creation of the Office of Environmental Accountability and Transparency charged with organizing and directing integrated scientific research and analysis to ensure that all agency actions are aligned with key environmental priorities.

– The Appointment of a Chief Science Officer to coordinate and prioritize scientific data, research, monitoring and analysis needs to ensure alignment with current and emerging environmental concerns most pressing to Floridians.


#4575

I don’t like DeSantis, but he’s doing a few good things. So far he beats the crap out of Scott.


#4576

Florida was having epic tidal blooms that were killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of fish. Fish that were washing ashore and causing a horrible smell. And basically driving tourists away.

Tourism being Florida’s most important industry.

The problem being the main culprit of the tidal blooms was agricultural runoff.

So, yeah, there’s a lot of pressure to clean it up from everyone who isn’t a Florida farmer.


#4577

It’s not INCREDIBLY surprising that the governor of a state that derives so much of its GDP from tourism would take steps to protect the state’s beaches. But since he’s got an “R” next to his name… yeah, still surprising.

Anecdotally, I’ve spoken to a few people here in Virginia who had rented beach houses down in FL and pretty much had their vacation ruined due to the Red Tide or other algae-related issues. My current office-mate actually cut her family’s vacation short and headed home because the smell was so terrible that it made her nauseous; I think she successfully got her vacation insurance to refund half her money.

So I’m sure that a lot of pols down there are pretty worried about environmental issues.

RE-EDIT: Dang, Woolen_Horde beat me to the punch with basically the same rant. Screw it, I’m hitting “post”.


#4578

Nothing says climate change and ecological crisis than people going to the beach, smelling something so horrific that they don’t want to stay or potentially ever return again.


#4579

Yeah, baby. Let’s get this party started.


#4580

Sounds like Hollywood needs to rush out a disaster movie.


#4581

Actually a fairly heartwarming story (if a story about teenage girls fighting for the future can be called heartwarming), but I’m going to leave the buzzkill quote.

Despite the huge scale of recent environmental protests in many countries, they have not produced anywhere near the levels of political attention of smaller protests dominated by older people. The Yellow Vest protests in France, a movement dominated by middle-aged activists who rallied in opposition to a hike in the tax on gasoline, are still driving French politics.

A French minister skipped out on the December climate talks in Poland because of the protests, and French President Emmanuel Macron announced he would reverse the tax, which was introduced to combat global warming. But an environmental protest last week drew more than 80,000 people to the streets of Paris alone, larger than the latest Yellow Vest protest. But it received little attention in French media.


#4582

One might cynically wonder if there is some financial incentives at play.

After all the advertisers probably have some vested interest in the status quo, and if protests against environmental legislation are favored by your financiers, perhaps you are more likely to care about that?

Hmm… no, there can’t be anything to that.


#4583

Some good news for a change:
Landmark Australian ruling rejects coal mine over global warming
The case is the first time a mine has been refused in the country because of climate change.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00545-8

In his ruling, chief judge Brian Preston said the project should be refused because “the greenhouse-gas emissions (GHGs) of the coal mine and its product will increase global total concentrations of GHGs at a time when what is now urgently needed, in order to meet generally agreed climate targets, is a rapid and deep decrease in GHG emissions.”


#4584

No pithy comment comes to mind.

Mainstream political and policy debates have failed to recognise that human impacts on the environment have reached a critical stage, potentially eroding the conditions upon which socioeconomic stability is possible. Human-induced environmental change is occurring at an unprecedented scale and pace and the window of opportunity to avoid catastrophic outcomes in societies around the world is rapidly closing. These outcomes include economic instability, large-scale involuntary migration, conflict, famine and the potential collapse of social and economic systems. The historical disregard of environmental considerations in most areas of policy has been a catastrophic mistake.

In response, this paper argues that three shifts in understanding across political and policy communities are required: of the scale and pace of environmental breakdown, the implications for societies, and the subsequent need for transformative change.

  1. Scale and pace of environmental change – the age of environmental breakdown
    Negative human impacts on the environment go ‘beyond’ climate change to encompass most other natural systems, driving a complex, dynamic process of environmental destabilisation that has reached critical levels. This destabilisation is occurring at speeds unprecedented in human history and, in some cases, over billions of years.

Global natural systems are undergoing destabilisation at an unprecedented scale.
• The 20 warmest years since records began in 1850 have been in the past 22
years, with the past four years the warmest ever recorded.
• Vertebrate populations have fallen by an average of 60 per cent since the 1970s.
• More than 75 per cent of the Earth’s land is substantially degraded.
Destabilisation of natural systems is occurring at unprecedented speed.
• Since 2005, the number of floods across the world has increased by 15 times,
extreme temperature events by 20 times, and wildfires sevenfold.
• Extinction rates have increased to between 100–1,000 times the ‘background rate’ of extinction.
• Topsoil is now being lost 10 to 40 times faster than it is being replenished by natural processes, and, since the mid-20th century, 30 per cent of the world’s arable land has become unproductive due to erosion; 95 per cent of the Earth’s land areas could become degraded by 2050


#4585

stackexchange says
“With current farming technology as actually practiced in the United States about 10 acres of land (40,000 square meters) is used to produce food for each average person.”

A lot of people are going to become vegetarian in the future.


#4586

Not exactly climate change related, but it fits with the Earth is Doomed theme of the thread.