5937

To be fair I started biking into work every day, even when it’s raining, so I’m not using my car. We got a Prius several years back and now my daughter is using it. I use a Brita water filter and fill it up every day instead of buying bottled water. I break down my recycling and put it out for the recycling crew every Thursday. It’s not a lot, but it ain’t nothing.

5938

LOL describes climate scientists exactly the way you can describe weather men, claims to understand one but not the other.

5939

Why do we have to read tweets written by ignorant hypocrites.

5940

Yeah I generally believe amplifying these idiots is the last thing we should do so I apologize for even responding 😔

5941

There is value is knowing how stupid your opponents are and how they think.

5942

altered carbon altered

5943

I reckon there’s an easy solution to this: STOP MULTIPLYING!!! Just stop having kids. Release a vaxine that reduces human fertility to 25% or something.

5944

5945

I guess I feel like people like that tweeter aren’t so much opponents as they are drunk uncles.

5946

You jest (I think,) but this is a huge part of the problem. In our lifetime the planet has doubled its human population. That is no joke. Every new human carries a weight of resource needs, carbon footprint, waste, etc. We’ve doubled that. I don’t know at what point that will be considered epidemic enough that there are discussion of limitations, but there certainly should be.

5947

And then we have another issue, since our capitalist economies rely on constant growth which increased population brings.

5948

I would think this would be solvable via immigration. There’s countries with low population growth, but need for new labor, while there’s other countries with lots of unemployment. Of course, cultural and nationalistic expectations come into play here, but I would think we have enough people already to allow lots of economic growth. (Especially with the coming robot workers revolution where robots replace human workers to get the constant growth the market craves, but that’s complicating the point at hand, which is that we should already have plenty of workers).

5949

Births are already below replacement level in quite a few countries and that will probably continue. You can bring birth rates down in the remaining countries by improving women’s freedom and economic power.

5950

I meant in the context of @Cormac’s vaccine and @Skipper’s mentioning of population doubling in our lifetimes. If we were seriously talking about having to cut world population growth significantly, it couldn’t be solved by immigration.

5951

It’s the same scenario though, even if world population growth is down across the board in every country. You still have countries with too many people and other countries that need more workers.

5952

I think for the majority of the issue it falls on China and India. And though China had population restrictions at one time, they have been eased. And they have had a ton of problems with what they did do.

If things come to it, I would expect the world would put pressure on countries with high population growth rates. But I think that’s too far out as a possibility that it sounds more science fiction than anything. Certainly technology to support even more population is something that has been important, versus just limiting the population in the first place.

5953

So wikipedia has China at 1.6 births per woman and India at 2.2. So if India is basically at replacement rate, and will probably drop more. Populations are still growing, but if we wanted to address that we would need to institute a maximum allowable age rather than a maximum allowable number of children.

5954

As in, everyone who reaches 60 gets euthanized?
Great plan!

5955

Can we implement a Cap and Trade system? I didn’t have any kids, I’d love to sell my credits to breeders who want more!

5956

life-clock

I’m in this boat as well. Speaking of, I could use a new boat.