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#2243

There are a few breweries around here doing cans, but most are only doing a style or two. I can only think of one or two that seem to have everything in cans.

I do have a local brewery that instead of doing growlers actually cans a 32oz beer for you on the spot. The can is good for about 7-10 days.


#2244

Indeed they did. The whole bomber push was exactly that.


#2245

If the canning line is good quality then supposedly there is less chance of oxidation and obviously it won’t get light struck. However there are bunch of breweries in the UK using low quality canning lines and I have lost count of the number of apparently good beers that I have had in a can and found them to be oxidised. It’s infuriating, and really puts me off trying a number of breweries output.

I like cans for portability, I like bottles for fancy beers. Just more aesthetically pleasing. A 12% stout in a can? Wtf. Still was a great beer though.

They are still putting the Tempus project stuff in bottle. Probably just the super limited run things that they’ll bottle from now on I expect.


#2246

I don’t pay much attention now to cans or bottles. While most of the higher end stuff (like, ten bucks for a 12oz bottle, and the pricier large beers) is in glass, usually, there’s a ton of great craft beer, including a lot of the local stuff, in cans. Speedway Stout can be had in a pint can, and it’s fabulous, as is the Ten Fiddy stovepipe, for instance. The truly expensive stuff like Eclipse though is always in a fancy schmanzy bottle.


#2247

Nearly every craft brewer (dozens of them) here in Ohio is doing nothing but cans. Canning lines are cheaper to buy and operate and mass quantities of cans are easier to handle.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20024146_837862713033190_4016798621073072409_o.jpg?oh=9e526ed94bf4f98b6ea4b805f032d85e&oe=5A056C80

This is Brewdog’s first batch of cans for the US brewery. 300,000+ cans


#2248

Looked today at my local store. They don’t have the 75 and I can’t remember ever seeing it there. I’m not worried about missing it, though. If your description is accurate it would be somewhere halfway between my favorite beer and a beer I don’t especially like - which doesn’t sound particularly appealing.


#2249

I can’t see Brewdog cracking America in any way other than force of will and shouting a lot. It certainly won’t be down to their very average core beers.


#2250

To be fair, that seems to go quite far in beer marketing.


#2251

fair point!


#2252

Having seen the Brew Dogs on TV I would probably try some of their beer if it were available to me. The only beer of theirs I have seen is one specialty beer in a bomber.


#2253

My quest to taste this Nitro Milk Stout continues after coming closer than ever yesterday.

The first time was at a stag do/bachelor party about a year ago but I drank so much the previous night I couldn’t face any more alcohol.

The second time was at a (fantastic) ale festival a few months ago but they didn’t shift enough of the existing kegs to rotate it in.

The third time over the weekend I spent several hours in a boardgaming cafe called Thirsty Meeples in Oxford (which is an amazing place btw, I’m going to make a point of going there every time I’m in Oxford, henceforth) and my girlfriend told me there was a milk stout on the menu…

Here we go! Boardgaming and the popular Qt3 drink? What could be a finer combo! I was so excited but… they’d sold out. Bollocks.


#2254

That’s okay, since it doesn’t look like it was the Nitro version anyway (Left Hand has a regular Milk Stout and a Nitro Milk Stout, and they are reasonably different beasts).


#2255

Nitro version = small bubbles, creamy mouthfeel, like Guinness in mouthfeel, head, and drinking (but not taste)
CO2 version = bigger bubbles, normal beer mouthfeel, more standard ale tasting

They are both good, but in different ways. I’ve had a number of beers on nitro, some work really well for it, and some do not.Left Hand is quite good on nitro. So is a local we have here, Duck Rabbit Milk Stout.


#2256

I had a Victory IPA on nitro. It ruined it. Definitely think it’s for dark beers only.


#2257

The Konrad Stout is a mainstay amongst my friends, and it is quite good.


#2258

Ahh, okay, now I’m wondering about the other two times I could have had ‘it’! So… what exactly is nitro then? It’s the first I’ve heard of it as a variant.


#2259

It’s just the forced injection of nitrogen into the beer.

Skipper detailed the mouthfeel differences above.


#2260

@gendal covered it. It’s the inclusion of nitrogen into the gas mix put into the beer in addition to carbon dioxide. Here it’s called, “beer gas,” but I don’t know if that term is popular everywhere. The nitrogen percentage varies, but I’ve seen something like 65-75% nitrogen is normal. Within beer ingredients, it roughly highlights malts, but mutes hops. So like @moss_icon mentioned, IPA’s on nitro are a real mixed bag. But darker beers, with more of a malt mix, seem to highlight when on nitro. It surprisingly also makes the underlying beer taste a tad flatter, because nitrogen doesn’t absorb into the water as much as carbon dioxide does.

There are two things important in a nitro, both the gas used in the beer, but also the spout they are poured out of. That spout is usually special, it has a small plate that restricts the flow into the glass. This causes the nitrogen to agitate going into the glass and it why when you get a Guinness on tap it seems to cascade in the glass as it bubbles. You can get nitro beers in a can and bottle, they aren’t 100% the same, but it’s close. You usually don’t get that cascading pour effect though.

All of this knowledge was passed to me via by homebrewing buddy, the guru of beer, but who passes these tidbits to me during drinking sessions, like an inebriated Obi-Wan Kenobi. “Only a Budweiser drinker deals in absolutes.”


#2261

Thanks for the information!


#2262

Cheers!

I wish I had one to actually hold up, but that’ll have to wait until this evening.