What is the selling point of the Xbox? (Besides Halo)

Amen, brother. Definitely don’t get an XBox if you (rightfully) hate the incredibly bleak future of RPGs that Bioware is driving toward. Bioware is Microsoft’s newest slut, so the only RPGs you’re likely to see on XBox are the hackneyed, repetitive bullshits that Bioware’s been force-feeding the gaming community since Baldur’s Gate.

I think you’re lost. GameFAQs is this way, friend.

There are alot of reasons to buy an XBox aside from the sports and FPS games, which I cant stand much either.
Really? My XBox shelf sure as hell can’t attest to that:

-Full Spectrum Warrior (hate it, trading soon)
-Wrath Unleashed (only XBox game I’ve kept since release)
-Mafia (I played it on PC, but my brother hadn’t, so he got it on XBox. It’s the exact same thing without mouselook and a powerful PC behind it… which is to say, it’s much, much weaker).
-Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance (it was a penny at Circuit City. I haven’t played it, but hey, a penny? Can’t pass that up.)

The games you list:

-Metal Slug is a total ripoff. $30+ for an arcade game you can finish on $2 in quarters? Yeah fucking right.

-Guilty Gear’s been on PS2 forever now… why would I want it on XBox if it wanted it at all?

-SF Collection–not even out yet. Coming to PS2 also, I think…?

-Ninja Gaiden: along with KOTOR, it’s one of the most overrated games of all time. A boring and unecessarily, frustruatingly difficult button-masher. It was gone a day or two after I bought it.

-Fable’s not out yet either. Think it’s going to rock? Three words: Black and White.

-Jade Empire – more Bioware shit. Don’t get me started.

-Horror games: All the ones you’ve listed have been out on the PS2 for a long time now, or are coming to the PS2 first.

What I’ve found most telling about the XBox is the fact that its fans are always citing games that have yet to be released as reasons to buy the system! PS2 fans and GCN fans can rattle off huge lists of games from every genre as pinnacles of the system. Can XBox fans? Apparently not.

Wow, you really are a jackass. Or should I say RPG Codex is this way - http://www.rpgcodex.com

Okay, I should have said “the best” support for HDTV. The XBox’s support is merely poor, while the PS2’s and GC’s truly sucks. :-)

Now of course, it could be, just maybe… that you are living on another planet where good = bad and that everything in that link is just wrong not to mention the sheer mountain of praise on just about any messageboard that KoToR ever received. Or maybe not…

Then again, it could be that not everyone thinks the same thing and that the consensus is not necessarily gospel truth. Whatever. I didn’t like KOTOR. (I did more-or-less enjoy BG2.)

For the record, HDTV support will not be an issue within the likely lifetime of any Xbox purchase.

Beats me. I think it’s a pretty crappy system.

I thought Ninja Gaiden was an excellent, excellent game. And that’s an XBox exclusive.

That said, I don’t own an XBox (I borrowed a friend’s to play the game) and I haven’t encountered any burning reasons to go out and get one. My friend who actually owns the XBox says that he greatly prefers his PC and PS2 for games, and that he hardly ever uses his XBox.

BTW, both of us are similar to Qenan in that we don’t like sports games much, and we both really, really like RPG’s and strategy games.

Selling points for the Xbox, IMO in order, would be:

  1. Xbox Live. Personally, not my thing. But if you dig multiplayer gaming as a lot of you seem to based on the reaction to the Nintendo guy’s comments, then this is your console hands down. The other two dont come close.

  2. Console exclusives. Obviously the PS2 is the king of console software. That being said, Xbox has some damn fine games that cant be found on PS2 or cube. NG, Morrowind, KOTOR, Riddick, FSW. There are more, but those are my favorites. And honestly, its hard to find anything that plays similarly to the stuff I listed on the other two platforms.

  3. Best overall graphics and load times. This means a lot to me even if the advantages over the other two platforms are relatively minor. I hate console load times in general (compared to PCs…my god they suck). Any game that is released on all three platforms, buying the Xbox version is a no brainer.

I think as more and more people become owners of multiple consoles, the Xbox is really going to pickup steam.

olaf

Ok, well, I’ll throw in since the XBox is my favorite of the consoles.

The thing is this, I don’t know if it’s taboo around here to talk about modding, but if it is then I’ll delete this later.

First off, I love the XBox and think it’s fab. There are quite a few good games available, especially lately. Spider-man 2, Psi-Ops, Riddick, HALO, KOTOR, Sports… The list goes on.

Secondly, I’ve recently modded my XBox and man was it worth it. It was fairly easy to do and now I can stream video from my pc on the network to my XBox using the media center while my wife plays games on the same drive with no degredation to pc or xbox performance. It’s really amazing. With a mod chip and the price of the XBox these days, it becomes a media server for around 250 bucks.

On the subject of Fable.

-Fable: Think it will rock? Peter Molyneux: Magic Carpet, Populous, Dungeon Keeper and Syndicate. I think it will rock.

I hope it’s going to rock… of course, I said that about Black and White, so…

I know what you mean about Black and White, but it’s only one game. I know that the entire world got duped by it, me included, but I really think Fable is going to be great. There appears to be an actual game there isntead of an AI experiment.

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It still amazes me though that the list of exclusive “games that rock” on the XBOX inevitably contains a list of games that mostly play better and are available on a PC.

Yeah, that’s why I always decide against buying an Xbox when I’m pondering to increase my console zoo…

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Time to kill this discussion.

Hitler was elected, popular will means jack shit. And DaveC, whenever someone criticizes a Bioware game in any way it is in fact, as you had feared all along, a personal insult that questions both your sexuality and makes dubious claims about your species.

That should do it.

Ok. I will concede this point, because that game really was bad, but we are in a gaming community and KoTor was well liked by “the masses” as well as the press. I remember at the time of Black and Whites release many people on messageboards and newsgroups saying “Where is the game here?”. So while the press showered their golden boy, the actual game players thought much differently.

But your point certainly stands, you cannot judge press giving their favored children high praise as a litmus test for the game being good or bad. My point stands however that the general gaming public is usually a fair indicator of whether the game really does suck or not, and KoToR was very well received in comparison to B&W.

Yes it pretty much does, I think it is some unwritten geek rule that when Hitler or Nazis are brought up in a discussion that the discussion is summarily crushed and put to rest. So that is that, as it were.

Honestly I only have 3 games for Xbox:

Halo
KOTOR
Ninja Gaiden

Really AAA games. Sadly 2 of them are out for the PC (took their time coming out tho).

I’m interested to know which games you have that let you listen to your own music during the game, because I haven’t found one in the games that I’ve bought. Maybe I’m just buying the wrong games.

The Amped series and the Tony Hawk games allow your own music FWIW.