What's the verdict so far on Project Fi?


#181

Yeah I just read the fine print. $7 a month , if you need replacement pay $79 then they will send you a refurb / factory refreshed model. And a limit of 2 replacements.

No way!


#182

Squaretrade is typically a better deal than your carrier, but it doesn’t cover replacement due to loss or theft. It’s more of an extended warranty. But it can’t compete with that pixel deal.

$7/month for true insurance including replacement, is fantastic. You won’t find a better deal anywhere.

I don’t insure my phones, but I also never drop or lose them, and I always use a case. With a glass back, you need a case.


#183

Absurd. $7/mo is almost 30 percent of the cost of the phone, not including the Fi credit! If I pay for a year of that, plus $80 to actually get the benefit, I’ve paid $165 for a refurb version of a device I paid $400 for in the first place. And that’s what, an 80th percentile scenario for getting value out of that warranty?

That’s an absolutely horrible bet. Take that $165 to the blackjack table, you’ll have much better odds.


#184

Oh, I was basing that on a Pixel 3. If you got a cheap phone then obviously it’s better to just buy a new one if it breaks.

I mean, insurance is always a bad deal, unless your phone breaks and you need it. Just need to do the cost/benefit analysis. I didn’t insure or buy Applecare for my $1100 iPhone XS Max, because I don’t drop or lose phones.


#185

I have a Pixel 3 ;)


#186

Well, you got it at half-price then.


#187

Yeah I mean I’m not an idiot.


#188

Pssst.

I’m on project fi and I traded in my Pixel for the LG V35. I know, nobody talks about it. It has the same processor as the current gen Pixels. But it has a screen about the same size as the Pixel 3XL and only weighs as much as the Pixel 3. It also a headphone jack and an SD card slot. And even though the “improved DAC” sounds like marketing fluff, I definitely noticed a difference when AB testing with my Pixel.

The downside is that you’ll have to wait for the latest Android version. But I can live with that.


#189

What type of output device were you using, I am curious.


#190

Sennheiser open back headphones.


#191

You can drive sennheisers off a little cell phone?? We’re not talking HD580/650s are we?


#192

Yes, they are hd650s, plugged directly into the phone. They sound fine, at moderate volumes. But I haven’t tried them with an amp yet.

EDIT: FWIW, some random dude with actual testing equipment measured 110 dB at 50 Hz from HD 650s plugged into a V35


#193

The thing about phone insurance is that there’s no price bucketing based on your risk profile so you have to decide yourself if it has a value proposition. For a lot of people it won’t make sense, but for some people who somehow are able to go through a phone per year they absolutely do make sense and so the pool is priced with those people in mind.


#194

My nephew apparently shatters his phone screen every 3-4 months, so my sister always gets insurance for him. I’ve never as much as dropped my iPhone in 11 years of owning it. I don’t even use a case.


#195

Really? Modern phones are slippery like bars of soap. That’s impressive.