The obvious upgrade path from a 970 is a 2070S. I would suggest either stretching to $499 or just waiting. Or maybe there will be 2070 non-Super cards available for cheap, briefly, before they’re phased out.

The 5700XT is another possibility, see what the reviews say and what actual prices look like when it comes out on Sunday. MSRP is $450 and it should offer 2070 non-super performance levels, but without the ray-tracing.

Thanks for the clarification. It was all getting a bit confusing (& pricey), so was a flummoxed.

The other factor is that with bitcoin prices soaring again, the miners may start impacting the market again.

Starting already, 19% off this 2070 @ Amazon.

MSRP $569 , sale price $460.00

At $460 I would probably buy that over the 5700XT. But I would blow the extra forty bucks on the 2070S.

I sorta feel the 5700XT is going to need a price cut the week of release. D:

Yes, if it comes out at $400 it will be very attractive indeed. At $450, much less so.

I’m toying with the idea of replacing the innards of my tiny gaming PC with a full AMD setup for the first time in almost 20 years, just for fun. If I do, there will be a 9900K / Watercooled 2080 Ti setup (m-itx mobo, CPU + GPU) available at a stupidly low price. Bay area pickup preferred but I’ll mail it if I have to.

@MichaelD I did just that into a tiny (not super tiny enough for some members of /r/sffpc but still under 20L volume) Fractal Node 304. Well, except for the GPU which is Team Green still.

AMD are trying out including a Game Pass sub with their cards. Cool idea.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14611/amd-launches-xbox-game-pass-for-pc-bundle-program-to-current-radeon-ryzen-products

Given that MS has been essentially giving it away to get market share, I expect they got a sweetheart deal.

Oh my?

Makes sense, as the 5700XT will compete against the 2060S which also comes in at $399.

Thing is, the Nvidia card has raytracing and while its utility is questionable, I’d rather have it than not.

AMD would have loved a couple of months of offering that before the discounted deals were announced for everyone.

What is the difference between “game clock” and “boost clock?” I don’t recall seeing game clock before, and doesn’t make much sense to me; if a program needs more oomph, wouldn’t it just get boosted?

Base clock: never goes below this, no matter what
Game clock: will probably clock around here most of the time on stock cooling
Boost clock: as high as it goes

Some early numbers.

God, the naming schemes for these cards is just ridiculous. Ugh.

50th Anniversary edition? What? AMD have been around since 1969? I didn’t know that. That graphic makes it look like the only thing that sets that edition apart is that it’s got gold plated bling on the card, so you can admire it when you open your case.