stusser
4111
You can upgrade the CPU if you want to also, Ryzen motherboards are forwards-compatible. Kinguin grey-market windows keys work fine, I’ve purchased them several times.
KevinC
4112
I feel this has gotten less and less true over the past few years.
rei
4113
You need more than 4C/4T nowadays for modern games.
stusser
4114
It’s fine for 1080p, in a budget build. The whole computer is six hundred bucks including GPU.
Having just sunk a few days into RDR2 has me hankering for a upgrade. Where are we in the GPU cycle? I.e. does it matter much to wait a few more months, or is the next big thing further out than that?
I got back into PC gaming in 2013 and did a custom system in 2015, which included a GTX Titan X. Worked like a champ for a few years but noticed it is struggling on newer games, either ultra at 1080p (trivial until recent Assassin’s Creed and RDR2) or lower at 4k (always a challenge). Still plays old games without breaking a sweat. Based on what I’ve read out there it is somewhere just below 1080 (edit: not Ti) in terms of performance?
According to https://www.gpucheck.com/ an issue may also be my CPU (i5-6500). That site says I could gain around 20% more FPS with a newer CPU, although they don’t say which… Also upgrading just the CPU sounds trickier than the GPU, although maybe I’m over thinking it…
Finally, there is always the possibility of just doing a complete rebuild, new motherboard too etc. I have an Asus Z170a and have no clue how that bears on any of this. Budget isn’t an issue (within reason) as I use this PC for home office too and can amortize the cost over another ~4 years, but I am a little more sensible this round than last time when I went for strictly the biggest shiny. Although, one perk of the Titan X is it looks like resale is still above $300!
Welcome any thoughts / tips. Latest I would want to upgrade is for Cyberpunk.
schurem
4119
Me, I’m trying to wait out until the mid/late summer. See what the nvidia 30 series does.
Not easy as I’m doing VR on a 1070…
Cormac
4120
Well, I’ve been itching to finally replace my 970 and am looking at the RX 5700XT or the 2060 super (need to stay below 400€). Since most new cards are bundled with games, I figured I’d wait a few more weeks and see if any Cyberpunk bundles show up and thus save a few bucks that way, since I DEFINATELY want that game ASAP.
schurem
4121
instead of a 2060 thuperfabulongous i’d go for a 2nd hand 1080ti were I to buy today.
Cormac
4122
Interesting… I can see a MSI GTX 1080 TI GAMING X going for 320€ via an Amazon dealer. You reckon thats better than the 5700XT or 2060S (that currently start at 380€ here)?
(I’m gaming on a 1440 monitor with a i5 7600 cpu)
The 1080 Ti (which is what I’m using) is a beast and according to this page, it’s a bit faster than the 5700 XT, depending on the game. Usually a bit faster, sometimes the same as. I see you are using an i5 7600 CPU so you may be a little CPU-bound here, something to think about.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3918vs4045
It lacks Ray Tracing, is the only drawback, but that’s probably not a big talking point yet.
Here are some benchmarks:
stusser
4124
Don’t use userbench, it’s useless. Look at real reviews.
The 5700XT is a solid ~15% ahead of the 2060S. The 1080ti and 5700XT offer basically the same performance.
The real drawback to getting a used 1080 Ti would be the loss of the warranty, I assume. Whenever I sold an old GPU to someone that still had 6 or whatever months left on the Warranty, I’d tell them to contact me if they had any issues and I’d RMA it on their behalf, but I doubt anyone on ebay is going to do that.
vyshka
4126
I wonder what they’ll do for the prices.
Looks like waiting is the the obvious choice in this case for my once every ~5 year upgrade.
rei
4128
Generally-speaking, without RTX-specific features (that turned out to be a bust) Turing only had a 25% bump over Pascal and there really isn’t a compelling upgrade option from my GTX 1080 Ti right now. Not worth $1000 to get 20-25% more framerate.
Sure, but 50% more performance from Turing to Ampere on top of that 25% you cited from Pascal to Turing is nearly 90% increase from Pascal to Ampere. That’s pretty huge.
stusser
4130
My guess is something like this, both price points and performance tiers carefully calculated to be better than what we have now but still actually kinda suck. Thanks, AMD.
3060 = $399, 2070S performance
3070 = $599, 2080S performance
3080 = $799, 2080ti performance
3080ti = $1699, 2080ti + 35% performance
