Back in the days when I ran with the ATI crowd the joke was that if we had Nvidias driver/software team and ATI’s hardware we’d have the best god damn GPU ever made.
Pretty sure that still is true, even though Nvidia seems to be chasing the bloat (and possibly surpassing it with all their telemetry bullshit) that was the Cataclysm drivers from ATI (remember when the first one came out using .NET framework and being a massive piece of shit…)
Timex
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DRAMA!
Funny story… yesterday, I was looking at my brokerage account, and apparently I bought a bunch of AMD stock back in 2009, when it was around $6 a share. For a long time, it never really did anything, so I kind of forgot about it. But apparently it was like… THE big stock in 2019? And now it’s work $50? So that was cool. I guess I should have paid more attention, although then I might have sold it earlier.
RickH
4173
That’s pretty much kept me in the Nvidia camp. The driver suite for the one AMD card I got as part of a system bundle was terrible and I couldn’t slap in a GTX card fast enough.
KevinC
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I’ll believe that when I see it. That would be great if true, but I’m doubtful.
They would be great consoles. They would also cost twice as much as a AMD SoC based one would.
Intel is slowly starting to talk about their discrete graphics setup apparently.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15364/intels-dg1-discrete-xe-gpu-working-teased-at-ces-2020
They demoed games at 1080p (not talking about FPS numbers) so it’s not going to be high end hardware. It sounds like the initial card they might be releasing might not even have video out with it being AI/ML/Compute focused. I saw in one of the articles that I can’t find quickly that the gaming variety might not be out till 2021.
The one they are showing also doesn’t have an external power connector. Clearly not intended to be a high end or even a mid-range product. They could have bigger plans down the road.
Timex
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It happened once before… there was a time when AMD was actually giving Intel a run for their money.
Then Intel pushed out their Core architecture and smacked AMD back down. But, it was good for us, because AMD forced Intel to get their shit together and start engineering again.
Ultimately, I don’t care if AMD “beats” Intel… I just want them to keep Intel up on their game. Same goes for NVidia.
KevinC
4179
Same here! We have the outrageous prices we do largely because AMD has failed to compete for quite some time.
vyshka
4180
At the moment on the cpu front AMD is doing well. If they were doing as well on gpu front as there I would be happy.
Yeah, it’s true of course. On the other hand, I’d love to see what NVIDIA could build in a SoC space specifically for a powerful console. Give them a target price and let them engineer. That would be exciting I think.
Problem is Nvidia doesn’t have an x86 license like AMD does. They can only do ARM stuff and that doesn’t cut it on a high end home console. In a dream world where Intel and Nvidia partnered up to create their own custom SoC? That could be something cool.
stusser
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Current console CPUs are slow as balls. Next-gen consoles will be much faster, of course.
Romalar
4184
Wait, AMD has an x86 license? Isn’t the core x86-64 architecture everyone uses now actually AMD’s and Intel licenses it? Or is this a case where Intel licensed x86 to AMD and so AMD couldn’t make x86-64 on top of it without Intel cooperating?
vyshka
4185
They have a royalty free cross-license deal between them.
AMD licenses Intel’s x86, Intel licenses AMD’s x64
mono
4187
Intel DG1 - Disappointing Graphics Mark 1.
Surely they’re so far behind AMD and nVIDIA that they’ll never catch up. But I guess even if they can push their chips into the realm of “decent” that’ll be a huge step forward. I would be a bit shocked if they were actually able to come up with something competitive in anything but the bare-minimum gaming segment.
stusser
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The Intel GPU card will never be released to consumers. The DG1 or whatever will be the integrated GPU in the next generation of intel’s CPUs, and it will be a great leap forward, which is awesome for people buying laptops without discrete GPUs. But it’s happened before, that’s nothing new.
abrandt
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I bought AMD a couple years ago when it was in the toilet. Unfortunately, I DID pay attention when it took off and sold 2/3 of my shares because I assumed that was as good as it was going to get. My remaining 1/3 has about quadrupled in value since then(my first stock ever to be a >1000% increase since I bought it). I can’t look at my account without regretting selling that.
