4251

Longer I can deal with. Louder is usually not a problem with a good case. Hotter is an issue although you can mitigate it with after market cooling… drivers, blah. I can’t fix that.

4252

What GPU would folks currently recommend for:

  • A small form factor PC using the Node 202 case, so it can’t have a huge cooler, and a blower instead of top fan would probably be best
  • Capable of comfortably running VR stuff, don’t care about pure 4K / 60FPS. Mainly HL:Alyx is what I care about most
  • $300-ish price range

The 2060 seems like my best bet? Or should I go with AMD?

4253

Probably a 2060 super or faster. I wouldn’t buy a 2060 unless you’re really tight on cash. Don’t know of any with blower fans off the top of my head but I’m sure they exist.

4254

Or Zotac probably makes something. I would not waste money on RTX (300 wouldn’t cut it either) in mini ITX. Yeah, I checked and they make 1650, 1660s and a 2070 Mini.

4255

The difference between 2060 and 2060 Super is now $100 MSRP though - 33% higher. Not sure that’s worth ~5-10% performance. In VR benchmarks the 2060 seems more than capable, right? Especially for using a Quest Link?

4256

More like 15% in some games. The base 2060 certainly exceeds the minimum spec for VR, yes, as does the 1660S. 1650, I definitely wouldn’t go there. You want a locked 72fps for the quest, and I don’t know that the 1650 can handle that at 1440x1600.

4257

I know we were discussing AMD drivers a couple weeks ago and I saw this article:

The article is a lot more nuanced than the clickbaity headline makes it sound. Their own in-house track record with drivers has been pretty decent by the sound of it, but there’s definitely issues out there that AMD has been struggling to fix.

4258

Interesting that the return rate for AMD GPUs & prebuilts is 5x that of Nvidias

4259

Yep, overall a very interesting and seemingly well balanced article.

4260

Absolutely devastating for AMD. I wouldn’t buy a 5700XT at half-off until this is fixed.

4261

Who would’ve thought their drivers issues would keep coming to bite them in the ass… years later? I don’t know what they’re doing over there but really bad experiences like that tends to cause people to walk away and not look back… for years despite benchmarks.

4262

It’s not years later, Navi has only been out for 7 months. All these problems are with Navi.

Previous GPUs have had issues too, but GCN was very mature in the late 2010s.

4263

I am referring to AMD and their driver issues, in general. We’ve talked about this before. This recent one does not help, but driver issues for AMD have haunted them for a bit.

4264

Yes, they’ve been a problem before. But not recently, other than Navi.

4265

Well Nvidia announced some weak financial results today as well and their forecasts weren’t pretty either as they anticipate coronoavirus related disruptions to supply chain and manufacturing in the next quarter. So it’s not like everyone can jump ship on AMD and go full Nvidia. I don’t think they have the capacity to meet the demand currently.

4266

Often when people talk about driver issues for Radeon they are just half remembering problems that date back to like 2001. I’ve been AMD only for a long time and never have driver problems.

4267

I last had issues with CrossFire 7950s back in 2014. Have been Green Team ever since.

4268

You see less complaining now because NVIDIA has such a massive hold on the gaming market. You’re an outlier.

4269

RX 480, 2017. I buy both AMD and Nvidia as I see fit. I don’t have a… camp. Haven’t since I started the hobby.

And this is why I mention stuff like that. They need to get their shit together. People leave them for this kind of thing… for years, and then you have other claims, everyone sitting around getting mad at AMD for not pushing the price down on Nvidia, not so many claiming that they actually want to buy their cards, just want the green ones for less.

This is not the first time I’ve mentioned this problem of theirs, here. It’s a known problem not due to faulty memories.

4270

Did we read the same results?

The chipmaker also forecast first-quarter sales above estimates, even as it expected a $100 million hit from the coronavirus outbreak. The strong forecast also helped fuel expectations of a rebound in chip demand.