mono
4852
If the 3080 is 40% faster than the 2080 Ti, that’d be great. I’ll chip in an extra $300 to the money I got from selling the 2080 Ti to buy it. Alas, at 8nm, that Moore’s Law is Dead channel dude suspects the 3080 will only be 15-25% faster. The next few weeks shall reveal all.
Forget a 3090 at $2k. I’d assume the 3090 will largely be a paper launch with the few dozen physical cards they can manufacture at 7nm w/ TSMC.
I sure hope not, given 1070FE was 449 and 2070FE was 529.
stusser
4854
This is Nvidia, they wouldn’t offer such a performance gain without making you pay out the nose.
Fair, I guess. But 16GB seems unlikely for a 2170/3070, doesn’t it? I also think they have to be wary because while the new AMD cards might not compete with 3080ti/3090, they certainly will with the 3070.
stusser
4856
If the 3070 offers 2080ti-like performance they definitely will, yep.
rei
4857
Anyone spitball how much % slower a 1660 Ti is versus a 1080 Ti?
stusser
4859
Yes, 28% is right on the money.
rei
4860
Thanks. I may downgrade to a ITX box with that for next ITX build. Since they’re only a couple hundred first thousands for the RTX 2020 and the case can’t fit more than 10.5” long PCB GPU.
Look at the price rumors. Looks like we can only expect performance by paying more now? Instead of waiting for technology to improve performance?
I see myself buy 2nd hand video cards going forward.
Edit: Moore’s Law no more. Using Nvidia pricing logic, the Intel chip I’m using currently would probably cost the US economic output this year.
It sounds like the 3070 is going to be my target, based on pricing. Whenever the details come out, how does one assess what other parts to get (for a full build) to assure the CPU, ram etc isn’t the bottle neck against a good GPU? Is there a website? Or are gaming builds typically well matched?
Pre-builts rarely are in my experience, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing as they can give clear upgrade paths while saving you up-front money in addition to the headaches of building your own system if that’s not something you’re interested in.
If you’re instead just using them as a measuring stick, I … probably wouldn’t. System integrators more often than not will fashion builds based on target demographics rather than balanced performance. A couple examples are the “Oh, you want the BEST performance, so that means the most expensive everything even if some of those features won’t provide much if any real-world benefit!” variety and the “You’re a budget gamer, so you’ll get the absolute worst of PC components even if it would only cost maybe $50 more to massively boost performance, but we’ll put a flashy sticker on your case!” type of build.
In lieu of that, I’d use independent review and editorial sources you feel you can trust, as they’ll put together builds and publish results so you can compare them and decide what’s a sensible combination of components. I’m a fan of Gamers Nexus (website and Youtube channel) among others. The drawback of course is the need to wait for these sites to complete their reviews.
Thanks for the info. I’ve been without a gaming machine throughout the pandemic, so waiting a few weeks or months after release isn’t going to be a problem. So long as I have one by the winter holidays!
stusser
4865
GN is excellent. The best independent hardware site on the net these days, the successor to sites like HardOCP.
Yeah; Steve & company are amazing. My “net of trust” basically extends from them to those they likewise seem to have faith in, but GN is the gold-standard. One of my favorite videos is actually a good-natured lampooning of how detailed their reviews can be by one such “friend site” (Paul’s Hardware).
Just a reminder this is all tongue-in-cheek:
rei
4867
PC Perspective and HardOCP’s founders left to work for Intel and Anandtech’s Anand went to work for Apple right?
Yeah; Anand left for Apple, while Kyle Bennett (HardOCP) and Ryan Shrout (PC Perspective) went to Intel.
Nobody left for AMD, lol.
stusser
4869
Anandtech remains excellent sans Anand, but it’s a huge site owned by some magazine publisher, not independent.
I miss HardOCP. Remember they helped me get in touch with a Nvidia dev back in the days to fix a resolution issue with my Trinitron monitor.
mono
4871
The Tech Report used to be a reliable site for hardware news and reviews. The founder and main cog in the wheel, Scott Wasson left for AMD. The site still exists, but unfortunately took a nose dive once Scott left.
