KevinC
4912
What I was trying to say was that if this card really does require three slots and 550 watts, it’s likely not a consumer-targeted card and more something along the lines of the Titan series: a product designed to make headlines as “the fastest GPU on the planet!” where they really don’t expect to sell many of them. That’s what I meant by a vanity card, something that people with piles of money might buy for the bragging rights.
It’s all speculation at this point of course, but I just don’t see the successor to the *80Ti cards going that crazy. Maybe I’m wrong, but if so there’s not going to be many “3090s” sold, or whatever this rumored card and up being called.
$1399 rumored for the 3090. Does it do SLI?
Weren’t earlier rumors at $2k? So is this point to a cheaper lineup than expected? Or was there an even more eye watering Ti unit expected above the 3090?
Quaro
4915
$1400 is a a good deal if you have a professional application that uses GPU memory (3D work, machine learning, etc.)
There was nothing short of $2500 dollars to get 24GB in the last gen.
AMD better sure as hell have something worthwhile to show this year, to keep Nvidia prices down.
stusser
4917
Looks like AMD will be competing at the 3080 level, not the 3090, which is why Nvidia is price-gouging there.
We can hope. :)
As my wallet is 3080 price limited. :P
I’m hoping that AMD is able to take better advantage of their process efficiency this time around. Last time they had to push it to its bloody limit just to compete, and efficiency went out the door.
stusser
4920
That samsung manufacturing stuff is all just youtube clickbait rumors, fact is we don’t really know any of it is true. Take it all with salt.
5700XT was an OK GPU in terms of efficiency. It used 225w, only 10w over the 2070 super, at comparable performance. Of course the 2070S used a much larger process and offered similar efficiency, so high hopes for the 30 series.
That’s what I mean, though – it was a generation ahead in process technology and still used more power than the competition. Ideally it would have either been faster or consumed less power (pick one). They managed neither. I still bought one (and pulled a Wumpus on the vents), but I’m hoping for a better showing this time around.
The 2070 Super die is 545 square mm.
The 5700XT die is less than half the size, at 251 square mm.
RDNA 1 was also a mishmash of RDNA and GCN. AMD couldn’t complete the full evolution away from GCN in the first gen.
So if you assume RDNA 2 will finally ditch GCN and feature major IPC gains, and Big Navi will actually have a much larger die, there is definitely a chance for AMD to compete on a stronger level.
stusser
4924
What really matters is the object you can buy and put in your hands, not what it could’ve or should’ve been. The 5700XT could have been a contender, but its terrible drivers and decent but unimpressive performance killed any chance of that happening.
Rumors say RDNA2 is literally twice as fast as RDNA1, twice as fast as the 5700XT.
Glad to see I wasn’t the only one to think of that. ;-)
“…instead of a bum, which, let’s face it, is what I am.”
stusser
4927
Yes, that is the reference I was making!
More coverage here:
The blueprint of the 12V 12-pin connector is provided and from first look, it looks like traditional 2x 6-pin connectors hooked up together. The connector looks similar to the Molex Micro-Fit series of power connectors which are 19mm wide and have a 3mm pitch. This is the same width as the two 6-pin power connectors that current PSUs offer but offers a current capacity of 8.5A compared to 6A of mini-Fit 5556 connectors. At a perfect efficiency rate, the mini-fit would deliver 600 Watts of power but that’s not always the case and the actual power delivered to the GPU is around 400W at 6 Amps. The primary bottleneck with the traditional connectors is the 20AWG specifications for the pins.
I assume that if this adapter is pulling upwards of 600W that’s where PCGamer is getting the 850W PSU (theoretical) requirement. Of course, it’s not to say that new cards would need 600W of power, just that this adapter could provide it potentially. Then again, why does the adapter exist if traditional 2 8-pin connectors would have gotten the job done?
It’s from the label recommending at least 850 on the Seasonic adapter that was shown by wccftech. Here’s to hoping the 3070 uses much less power.
Oh for the luva…I just bought a nice, new 750W PSU barely eight months ago. I was looking at 850W models, but, based on my research, I thought, “Oh, I’ll never need that much.”
Going to be very mad (at myself) if I have to buy a new PSU to get a top tier card this time around.
Yup, I have exactly one piece of hardware for the build I’m planning, a 750W SFX power supply. But I’m guessing the 3070 won’t be above 300ish watts
