Translation. Three Navi 21 boards in November. Performance of the 3090 and 3080.
stusser
5173
Yep, Iām probably waiting to see what AMD releases. I really donāt like that 320w power utilization.
But usually AMD is even worse on power.
stusser
5175
For the past several generations yes, but Nvidia has done the same thing in the past, pumping up power and heat to try to compete with hardware that doesnāt quite cut it. Remember the dust buster.
If Nvidia takes the performance crown at 350w on a $1400 product, does that really matter? If AMD releases a 6800XT offering 3080-class performance at the same price and <250w, it will finally be the come-back kid.
The evidence points to AMD having the efficiency crown this gen. Theyāve got the superior node (TSMC 7nm+), and yes the 5700XT didnāt topple the 2080, its die was only half the size. Still gave a good fight.
stusser
5177
There isnāt much evidence at all other than rumors and āleaksā. But sure, those rumors do point at AMD coming out strong.
Yeah, but then you are saddled with an AMD. You get what you pay for.
This is a bad take. NVidia is not the Bugatti of video card producers, they have their own issues.
stusser
5180
AMD GPUs have been great before. The 5850 was one of the best videocards Iāve ever owned. Loved the 9800pro too. Itās just been awhile.
Seriously considering a 3070 if the size and power arenāt ridiculous. If it actually is $599 and will be double or more powerful than my stock 1070 Iāll finally have a worthy price to performance upgrade.
Itās actually not the hardware I take issue with, itās the driver support. It was bad and made me angry when I had one, and doing a little looking around I donāt see thatās gotten any better. Saving money (and power) means nothing if the game I was looking forward to playing crashes on release day, though YMMV of course depending on gaming habits.
stusser
5183
Again, thatās just more recent for AMD with the 5700XT. Nvidia drivers have been terrible too. My GTX1080 had a huge bug at launch where it would crash (TDR) every 36 hours, and another one where it would clock way down and stay there after a couple days of uptime. Each bug took Nvidia months to fix.
Oh for sure, no product is completely free of issues, but my personal experience with AMDās left a bad note in my mouth, so it would take an incredibleā¦ I donāt even know what, and I guess I wonāt until I see itā¦ to get me to try another AMD card. I do recommend them all the time when someone wants a gaming PC on a budget, of course.
I didnāt have any problems with drivers when I had AMD cards (3850, then 5850, then 7950), but I do remember there were a couple of games I stayed away from when I had the 7950 because Iād heard about problems with AMD cards. But I havenāt been in any thread in Qt3 over the last 3 or 4 years where people were reporting problems exclusive to AMD cards.
stusser
5186
5700XT had major problems. Donāt know if we had a thread here though.
I mean game specific problems. As in, donāt bother buying this game if you have an AMD card. I remember a couple of games like that back in the 7950 days. I was warned off in the thread for those games. I havenāt seen such warnings in any thread about AMD since then. Those are the kinds of problems that made me switch from AMD to Nvidia last time. I went from the 7950HD to 980Ti.
stusser
5188
Well, youāre certainly better off buying Nvidia on games that support raytracing.
Both consoles having AMD gpus must have some useful effect.
I donāt think it made any difference last generation (XB1 and PS4 both used AMD)
Itās a lot easier to know what drivers gamers are using when itās a console. Not a lot of testing needs to be done there, you know every hardware spec immediately and donāt have to expand out from there. Itās a lot harder to cover all the possible hardware configurations out there in the PC-scape.
