5312

Wow that 3070 looks sweet. The 3080 is very tempting too but might need a power supply and case change which I am not sure I care enough to do.

The 3070 relative to a 1080 Ti:

  • Faster
  • More CUDA cores
  • Shorter
  • Less power/heat
  • All the other benefits
  • Not as expensive as I thought it would be!

The only downside is the RAM amount, hopefully the 3rd party cards will start churning 16gb versions asap.

5313

It seems to me that the important point isn’t so much 8K as it is that they are powerful enough for 2 x 4K that is one 4K resolution screen for each eye in VR. That should be the objective, it’s just really hard to show to an audience that’s watching in 2D.

5314

Imagine if 3070s have been out of stock for weeks (or were never really in stock) when Cyberpunk hits release day.

I’m getting nervous just thinking about it. I signed up for nowinstock.net.

5315

Except the article says that at native 8k they were getting below 20fps… :D

It seemed more about the DLSS tech than anything, which is still available on precious few games (and zero VR games).

5316

If I’m not mistaken, though, one of the key points of the next version of DLSS is that it will be easier to implement (owing in part to all the AI stuff they are doing, I presume)

5317

Starting with DLSS 2.0 you no longer need a net specially trained to the specific game which makes life easier for developers.

5318

Right, the story is DLSS2.0 is very easy for developers to support if they use TAA.

5319

Yeah, and output their motion vectors. And I guess it won’t be used in consoles either, since they’re AMD?

I’d be interested to see how well it works in VR when combined with all the other tricks they do, image reconstruction artefacts would be more noticeable there.

5320

Conveniently, and coincidentally today, many Canadian ex-gamers have suddenly “given up gaming and gotten an IMAC” trying to hock their RTX for near retail:

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5321

Is there any info yet on the performance difference between a 3080 and 3070?

5322

Nothing yet, but I am sure there will be something by end of day.

5323

Oh hey look at that, 3070ti , already listed by accident on the Lenovo site? Double the DDR memory?


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5324

Rumors say AMD will launch 16GB cards, so Nvidia will have to respond to that-- even though the extra memory is not impactful for gaming.

5325

Yeah, at the moment at least. With the speed of these cards, I expect upward pressure on VRAM will be slowed for a spell. Then again, there was a time not that long ago when a 4GB card was considered impressive. For people who swap GPUs on a more frequent basis, the extra VRAM headroom is extra worthless. For those who may hang onto cards for several years, maybe less so.

5326

Once we know what it takes to keep the PC versions of next gen console titles happy, presumably that will be a pretty static requirement for a while.

Not counting beautiful outliers like MS Flight Sim, or VR :)

5327

Not what we were hoping to hear, hopefully it’s not entirely accurate.

5328

At those prices, I can’t see how stock won’t be tight. Everyone with a 1000 series card and older is going to want to upgrade, and a lot of 2000 series owners too.

5329

MLID has been saying the 3090 supply is going to be extremely tight. Like a quarter of what the 2080ti was at launch.

This really feels like Nvidia wanting to get ahead of not only Big Navi but the XSX and PS5. It’s almost a paper launch.

5330

Flight Sims used to be (and are) excellent ways to drive insane performance hardware. When the consoles were doing 2D platformers with a whopping 16 colours, PCs were pioneering 3D vector graphics, advanced flight and nav modelling, etc.

Doom was a revolution. It’s contemporary flight sim, Falcon 3.0 was a, well… third generation sim. It used every bit of ram and flop of cpu and put it to work.

It seems with VR and the resurrection of MSFS, this might be the case again. Console peasants might be happy with a mid range PC, but the PC masterrace flies! Flight Sims are not a strange outlier, they are the vanguard of a glorious future.

5331

Nvidia is really, really good at the business side of things. You wouldn’t even know they have driver issues too sometimes from reading here and other places. They get a lot of buyer loyalty, charge a premium for what they sell, and control the market to a large extent.