Which is evidence back to my actual original point that Nvidia is really good at controlling the market. They sold the shit out of ray-tracing and here we are.
Sorry, I was supposed to stop. :(
That’s my point, yes. Not a perfect analogy.
Yeah, that makes sense. They had the luxury of zero pressure to focus on performance
All this talk has me thinking about AMD in GPU market like:
I think they have been focused on CPU for a while, would like to see them come out hard in GPU space. Nvidia getting top end over $1000 last couple gens is a damn travesty. That’s two high end consoles.
rei
5356
There’s STILL only 12 games or so after 2 years with various levels of middling FX with a huge performance hit unless you use DLSS too.
stusser
5357
They did indeed focus on CPUs. They made a deliberate choice to invest more in CPU than GPU development a couple years back-- as I recall this was like 2015.
And they’ve basically wrecked Intel at this point (well, mostly it was all the vulns but they were well-positioned to exploit).
stusser
5359
Even ignoring spectre AMD just plain has a better CPU product. Intel’s failure to make their 10nm and 7nm processes work destroyed them for consumers. Nobody’s buying Intel outside the DC and OEMs with contractual obligations.
rei
5360
Intel’s upcoming discrete video is just trying to compete with integrated Radeon without RT?
stusser
5361
Intel is trying to say it will offer real enthusiast level performance. The leaks say its power requirements with multiple tiles make that very unlikely, but a single tile would easily compete with AMD iGPUs.
I know. That’s still $1,033 USD.
Nvidia just showed off a 3070 that offers 2080ti performance, along with all those new features, for $499.
$1,033 for a 2080ti now is stupid. The 2080ti’s value was kneecapped yesterday.
rei
5363
Oh yeah, I know. The pic was mocking a ton of people who tried to resell their cards too late yesterday which fake excuses, reasons and/or ignorance of pricing realities.
Sorry I got a little testy there, I shouldn’t be arguing with anyone today. I’ve got some stuff going on and it’s made me be in “a mood”. My apologies.
stusser
5365
Not a problem I don’t get offended easily!
The marble demo yesterday was gorgeous and zen. I wish they’d release that for new card owners to enjoy.
rei
5367
Someone is trying to drive prices down
More chat from Digital Foundry…
fdsaion
5369
There’s rumors that preorders will not be taken & there will be limited stock until next year.
Fun paper launch?
Rock8man
5370
Wow, it really was there behind the spatulas the whole time.
MichaelD
5371
Pricing low while also not being able to meet peak demand (or anywhere near it) seems like a bad combination. For now there’s no competition – I expect them to take advantage of that.
That said, I also have my nowinstock alerts set.
/hedge
