5452

Man, $400 just for the storage? That’s going to be a ridiculously expensive rig that Soma is putting together that won’t break the bank.

5453

No reason to pay for MLC, TLC is fine. QLC, I don’t like.

5454

I’d go with something like 3700X, 3070, NVME Samsung Evo, 16GB RAM, for a gaming machine to last the console generation.

But as always, better stuff will come along :)

For me, upgrading just doesn’t make sense. My monitor is 1440 ultrawide with a max refresh rate of 60fps. A 2080S hits that max a lot of the time. Until more demanding console titles emerge, I can’t really use more power. I’m not especially into VR/Sims. Although I kind of want to be so I have an excuse to upgrade :/

I wouldn’t mind cooler and quieter but I doubt I’d actually do anything about that.

5455

QLC is improving. The new Samsung 870 QVO and Sabrent drives have more reasonable lifespans.

Sabrent even uses a small amount of SLC as a cache to extend the lifetime of the QLC.

5456

All of them do that, other than very low end models. They’re still not anything I would buy, although they aren’t broken or faulty, to be clear.

5457

Sheesh, I clearly haven’t paid much attention to my storage options. I looked at the specs of my old Crucial 1TB NVMe and it maxes at 560 MB/s.

That, admittedly has been totally fine. Yet I have a PCIe 4 system, and a 1TB Rocket would provide a nearly 8x r/w performance boost.

5458

… in benchmarks.

5459

Yeah, gotta agree with Stusser on this one. The actual performance delta running a program is going to be pretty small between NVMe 3.0 and 4.0. Don’t get me wrong; it’s there and arguably will increase as more demanding software comes out, but by far and away the biggest gap is HDD to SSD of any variety, including SATA.

5460

The Rocket isn’t much more than a 970 Plus, though ($20-40 at 1-2TB). I went that route when building a new system.

I don’t think I’d upgrade an existing SSD to it unless I needed more capacity.

5461

SSD speed is completely meaningless in gaming right now. They only matter when moving or working on very large files, like editing 4k video.

Now it’s possible DirectStorage changes that. We don’t know if’s smoke and mirrors or really matters yet. If it does, buy a faster NVME SSD then.

5462

Yeah, that’s the sort of stuff… this and the nVidia IO, that I’m keeping in mind. Haven’t decided on storage for my new machine, but thinking of trying out Sabrent

5463

I would wait, because you probably want a NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD for the directstorage stuff, assuming it isn’t all BS, which it very well may be, and they’re still priced at a premium.

5464

The 980 is reported to be notably faster than the current generation of PCIe 4 drives, which are all based on the same controller. That said, if it’s really $400 for 1TB, that’s a big nope.

5465

Yeah, I bought a NVMe PCIe 3.0 2TB TLC SSD for $235 almost a year ago. Not a cheap one either, it has RAM and everything. Benches at 3.5GB/s read and 2.8GB/s write.

It made zero difference in games from my old 500GB SATA SSD.

5466

I have been using samsung ssds for a while now. I would absolutely buy them if it made sense, but I’m looking for best ratio of price and performance, not bleeding edge.

5467

LTT did an informal “feel” test to see whether typical users/gamers could tell the difference between OG SATA, standard NVME, and Gen4 outside of running benchmarks.

5468

Going from my 840 EVO to a 970 PRO M.2 felt like a big step up to me, but at the same time I also upgraded the processor and RAM (which went from DDR3 to DDR4) so there were a lot of factors there. Still, I’m not super surprised at the results from that LTT video - a SATA SSD drive is still a fast drive, for sure.

Not to say there is no difference from any level of SSD to a spinning disk of course. I just built a PC from old parts for a buddy and I had a 7200RPM disk drive I put into it and it felt like an eternity to boot up, install updates, and load MtG Arena and other various tasks just took a lot longer than I’m used to. Yikes.

5469

For me, spinning HDs are this era’s magnetic tape drive: suitable for backup / archival purposes only, Even then I don’t want one of them in my build, for any purpose, ever again. Hate the drives, hate their size, hate the power and data cables… everything about them. YMMV :-)

5470

HUGE difference from a hard drive to SSD. But it really doesn’t matter which SSD, outside benchmarks.

Until DirectStorage. Maybe.

5471

I moved over to external HD storage for my 3.5" drives a year ago, case is soo roomy with only 2 SSDs in it.