5954

It’s literally a reference design with cooling slapped onto it. Other AIBs increase headroom by introducing slight modifications, etc etc.

So yeah, what did people expect? We all know Nvidia’s pricing at $699 is artificial relative to demand.

5955

When the card is realistically only 20% faster than last-gen, 3% means it’s only 17% faster.

Some 3090 benchmarks leaked and they’re terrible given the price difference. Like 10% in games, 15-23% in Blender.

Looks like the 20GB 3080 might be the sweet-spot card for MSFS in VR. (Cue you-know-who saying nobody needs more than 640K, er, um, I mean 10GB.)

5956

They were selling it for $720, but have now dropped the price to $700 (the cost of the FE).

5957

Is this based on something you’ve read or are you just speculating?

5958

Tests with 16GB AMD cards have shown the sim using over 12GB of video memory if it’s available. It’s reasonable to think that the pair of 2160x2160 screen buffers an HP Reverb G2 are going to be even more demanding than a single 4K buffer. So it’s speculation, but backed up by data on current cards.

The 3090 will still be faster, but given the >double price, the 20GB 3080 might give the extra smoothness the additional video memory will afford with 90% of the general graphics performance, at a lost less money.

We’ll see…

5959

There are some strong rumors about AMD’s 6xxx series being significantly better than originally leaked, so waiting for the 20GB 3080 to launch would also allow for a comparison with a potential competitor. Of course, I won’t believe either company until I see proper reviews.

5960

That Zotac is objectively the worst 3080 you can buy from a mainstream manufacturer. They made a huge mistake purposefully tuning its power draw to perform worse than reference cards. I wouldn’t buy one under any circumstances. Even if it was in stock, I would pass.

More RAM is likely to be useful for higher than 4k resolutions, certainly.

5961

Don’t bother checking this morning I have made the rounds. If you did want a open box 2000 Series Microcenter has about 1000. LOL.

5962

It baffles me they don’t just take down payments, fulfill backorders as stock improves, and let me forget about hitting F5 daily…

5963

CDW does that.

5964

Aren’t there always rumors that the next AMD architecture is significantly better than originally leaked?

5965

LOL - pretty much. Like I said, I won’t trust either company until I see reviews. But yeah; each have their own peculiar hype trains fueled by embellishments and occasional outright lies.

5966

Where I come from we call that “marketing”. :)

5967

Some 3070 pictures… I wonder how the order situation will go for those. Seems like this was positioned more as the mass adopter card :/

5968

The poor 3080 launch doesn’t necessarily imply anything about the 3070. It’s a much smaller and thus cheaper chip to produce.

5969
5970

Might have been a good idea to do that before the bots bought all the cards.

5971

Seriously, amateur hour.

5972

I thought there was an article posted here that this was actually Nvidia’s “plan” all along.

5973

I saw one reference that the bot buyers used the DigitalRiver API to buy a ton of cards “in the background.” If that’s true, the CAPTCHA isn’t going to help. (EDIT: Ah, they reference more protection on the store APIs, which backs up this story, and also hopefully means this backdoor has been shut.)

If the benchmarks when the NDA lifts on the 3090 are as disappointing as the ones that leaked (pay 215% of the price for 100% of the performance!), perhaps those will last a little longer. In a perfect world, the bot sellers would be stuck with warehouses of them, like the guy who bought all the toilet paper right before supplies got good again.