When do the next generation GPUs drop?

[Editer]

You should try combining it with the 10900K, which is seriously the most annoying processor Intel has released in years. So much power, so much heat. Going to replace the POS single-slot AIO liquid cooler CyberPowerPC laughingly thought was adequate for this machine with a Noctua NH-D15 tonight and see how that helps. Out of the box, I was nearing 100C in MSFS; after reversing two fans (all of them were exhausting, no intake!) and adding three more on the top of the case, I got MSFS temps down to 85-90C, which is still too hot for comfort.

I’m sure the 3080 sitting below the CPU cooler isn’t helping matters. :) But shame on CyberPowerPC for even shipping this configuration.

[stusser]

Just played Control for several hours. Great game. Excellent game, in fact. I shouldn’t have waited. Anyway.

GPU was around 350w, 100% utilization, 120ish FPS at 1440p with everything maxed out including ray-tracing, DLSS quality mode. Fan was never even audible inside my case, temperatures topped out at 78C but normally hovered around 70C.

Other than the heat it generates, I’m very happy. Literally twice as fast as my 1080.

[Profanicus]

@KallDrexx

Woops

Starlit Partner is an individual sales subsidiary working under MSI. They carry excess inventory and Refurbished items and would not be given newly released products such as the Geforce RTX 30 series GPU. As such, we have conducted an investigation and found out that an error allowed them access to inventory they were not permitted to handle.

Wow… even if that were true, and they typically only sell excess and refurbs, why were the prices marked up so highly?

[lordkosc]

@stusser

Haaaaay guyyyyz, have you heard of this thing, the 3080? It’s really fast. Twice as fast as my old 1080, in fact.

[Alistair]

@stusser

Nah, I would just close the window and turn on the A/C first. So far it isn’t too bad, just new and unwelcome.

Well if the window’s open you can probably duct it out there somehow…

[stusser]

So you have heard about it? My mom got it for me to play Minecraft. It runs great!

[Dan_Theman]

If it doesn’t run Dwarf Fortress, it’s no good

[Misguided]

Interesting—at least to me—the original lineup Asus announced did but include a 3070 Tuf, only Strix and Dual. But they have apparently announced the Tuf as well. I can fit the Strix in my case, but would happily buy the Tuf off I could.

There’s also some noise about 20 GB 3080 Cards (and 16GB 3070 cards) in December. Just rumor, but I could see a lot of people being pissed if that happens.

[stusser]

Not me. Waste of money.

[dgallina]

I did a little analysis of the 3080 stock situation while continuing my fruitless search today. As hard as it is to believe after three weeks, things are actually getting WORSE with respect to restocks & availability!

Three weeks ago there were roughly 9 different drops of cards at various retailers (that were around long enough to be captured by trackers). On average the cards are only up for 2 minutes or so before disappearing (and probably really less given the update cycles on the trackers).

Two weeks ago there were roughly 7.

This week there have been 2 so far and history suggests that there’s only one more batch likely this week.

The hair-pulling insanity continues…

Diego

[Knightsaber]

I notice all the Good Guy points EVGA is earning this launch (which are deserved). Doing the best they can, implementing a queue, not making shoddy cards, fixing weird fan issues in like a day, actually talking to us losers.

I notice I’ve had a lot of Nvidia cards and tend to skip generations, 8800 GT, a 470 (lots of skipping), a 580 (less skipping), a 780Ti (a skip and my only Ti), a 1080 (another skip), and am waiting quietly for an FTW3.

All EVGA cards. Must be a reason.

[AK_Icebear]

Asus Tuf 3070 sounds very tempting. Wonder if there’s a shot in hell for finding one…

[Misguided]

I never said you’d be one of those people 😄

[KevinC]

@Knightsaber

I notice all the Good Guy points EVGA is earning this launch (which are deserved).

Yeah, I’m usually not too big on brand loyalty but EVGA has earned it a few times over. I get their cards almost without exception.

[Ginger_Yellow]

In case y’all are CPU haters, AMD just showed some numbers for Big Navi on the Ryzen stream. I assume these are running on a 5950X.

[Scotch_Lufkin]

For comparison, it looks like a 3080 RTX running on an i7 8700K scores 118 fps at that same settings level in Modern Warfare. I’m still looking around for the other two games at the same settings to compare.

EDIT:
Found on TheVerge:

Borderlands 3:

There was another site that had Borderlands at 69fps with the highest 1% being in the mid 70’s and the average being 65, which is closer to what we see from Big Navi in that chart, so I don’t know what the difference there might have been. Drivers maybe. Same resolution, same “Badass” preset.

[Alistair]

So not a 3080 competitor (unless you can actually buy them.) I saw 78 fps for the 2080Ti in CODMW, so maybe a 12% step up from there.

[Woolen_Horde]

VideoCardz.com (VideoCardz)

[Editer]

@Editer

Speaking of case thermals, my 10900K in the PC I bought to get my 3080 is idling at 51C. After work I’m going to check that the pump is actually working on the cooler and perhaps reseat/re-paste the heatsink. I also have a Corsair H110i I can replace it with if necessary. But that’s going to necessitate figuring out this bizarre LED controller the fans are plugged into. Pain in the butt.

I’m happy with the package I got for the money for the most part, but really can’t recommend the CyberPowerPC/Best Buy route for most people. If a non-techie got this rig it’d be running at 100C while gaming, and this techie’s gonna have to rebuild the thing anyway. Plus the crapshoot with the possibility of getting that horrible AsRock motherboard.

Just posting so y’all who are still looking will know it’s not all wine and roses for some of us who got cards through alternate methods. :)

Update: Removed the crap single-fan AIO water cooler (totally inadequate for the 10900K) and replaced it with a Noctua NH-D15S air cooler. MSFS temps went from 100 degrees over LA as shipped to 72 degrees max. The RTX 3080 is also peaking around 70 at full load.

All good now in 3080-ville.

Moral of the story: Don’t buy Best Buy/Amazon/Wal-mart preconfigured CyberPower systems. Unless you are desperate for a 3080.

[Aceris]

Yah it’s such a lottery with system builders. I’ll probably pick a new system up early December once you can actually get cards and myabe Ryzen 5000s, but I’m not enough of a techy to tinker with my system, so I’m just going to have to rely on trustpilot to pick a builder. Unless anyone has any solid recommendations for UK system builders?

I am so glad this thread got me into reading up about cooling, I didn’t realise how inadequate stock solutions are even for non-OC high end CPUs.