Looking at some of the benchmarks, they do seem to have very precisely tuned it to be as good as, or ever so slightly better than the 2080ti.
stusser
6725
Yes, and aside from DLSS reviews are hinting AMD is going to smoke it tomorrow.
morlac
6726
Wow, 360hz seems a bit excessiveā¦I love it. Iām sure its 1080p though. Iām past my prime and No E-gamer so no thanks :P.
Yep, thatās what Iām seeing as well. Supposedly AMDās DLSS solution will come via driver, allegedly. Weāll know more soon.
We only have 24 hours to speculate, folks! Get to it!
Should I jump to AMD if I donāt care about DLSS? Should I care about it? Will their raytracing be as good? Nothing on RTX I/O either.
Things just got more interesting but now thereās actual decisions to make.
Iām still pretty wary of switching to AMD graphics cards after my previous experiences (admittedly not for a long time) and am still skeptical they will really challenge at the high end, but luckily thanks to waiting on the Zen 3 release I have the luxury of seeing what they have to offer before deciding.
rei
6730
I donāt trust AMD drivers with my last experience being with Mantle drivers for a CrossFire setup.
KevinC
6731
It would take a pretty big price/performance advantage for me to consider an AMD card. Maybe in a generation or two if they keep doing well, but not now. Iāve just had nothing but problems in the past not to mention I have a gsync monitor.
Still really interested to see what they have to bring to the table this go around. Seems like the past several generations have been 'Will the AMD cards be able to compete?" and after the pre-release hype the answer keeps ending up being no, at least on the upper end. This time feels different partly due to Nvidia stumbling (in different ways) the last two generations, but weāll see.
Either way, whether youāre looking to buy AMD or Nvidia, an awesome Big Navi is in everyoneās best interest. Iām really looking forward to seeing the details.
My issue as well. I really like my monitor. Honestly Iām not sure it matters to me if AMD is better, if the 3070 is great at 1440p. Of course, if AMD IS better, nVidia might respond somehow, though I donāt think a rumored 3070Ti that uses more power would be the response I was looking for.
stusser
6733
If you have a hw gsync monitor, donāt buy AMD unless you save enough money to buy a new monitor.
AI-based upscaling is magical technology and some form is it is going to be in future games. If AMD doesnāt have any answer to DLSS or if they try to claim their image sharpening is ālike DLSSā, run, run, away. Note I donāt believe that will happen-- I expect AMD to have a real answer to DLSS, hopefully an open standard to boot.
Raytracing is actually less impactful than DLSS, but next-gen consoles support RT and most PC games are console ports, so itās important to have it to get a console-equivalent experience. Since AMD makes the SoCs powering both consoles, thereās nothing to worry about there.
Driver qualityā¦ who knows? They wonāt address it in the keynote, of course. Thatās a valid concern coming off Navi1. Ampere drivers are rock-solid.
Quaro
6734
NVIDIA works a lot better with low latency encoding, important for using the Oculus Quest in PC VR.
Iām in the same boat, and itās one of the things pushing against going AMD, but at the same time, I figure if it really is competitive with a 3080, I can just turn on V-sync and play everything at locked 60fps (itās a 1440p monitor).
stusser
6736
I suppose thatās true, if youāre satisfied with 60fps.
More than. Iām mostly happy with 30fps, to be honest, outside of racing games and VR. I donāt do competitive shooters or really any twitch games.
Unless AMD does announce their own alternative to DLSS too then I still donāt see a reason to go with them even if they do deliver a a good GPU. DLSS 2.0 is a real revolutionary technology that I highly doubt AMD can just āout muscleā somehow.
Agreed on that. I am more than a little skeptical given that youād think the console manufacturers would be shouting from the rooftops about it, but I guess we only have to wait another day to find out.
Both Sony and MS have been tight-lipped about all the GPU details, aside from the basics of compute units and clock speeds.
Stanfordās Hot Chips conference was a couple months ago, and the Xbox team sent some folks to talk about the XSS. They were so mum about actual GPU details that the joke was Lisa Su was standing off stage with a gun pointed at them.
I didnāt think about gsync. So AMD would not even be able to drive it? I guess that makes sense now that I type it out.
stusser
6742
AMD GPUs will work fine on hardware gsync monitors, but they wonāt do variable refresh at all. āGsync compatibleā will work fine as thatās just freesync.
1080s still show up on ebay for $250 or so. Iām really tempted to try and snag a 3070 to upgrade now. $250 for double performance plus RTX seems like a good deal to me.
