KevinC
6824
Overclocking.
So, the 6800 XT is a competitor to the RTX 3080 sans DLSS for $649? Makes it a pretty easy choice to stick with my 3080 plans. Hoping this at least eases up some of the supply shortages.
Iām just showing off my abs.
EDIT: I meant IBS
DLSS seems like itās largely about performanceā¦ which these cards donāt need as far as I can see.
People locked in to GSynch still benefit from AMD forcing Nvidiaās prices down.
KevinC
6827
They certainly need performance, especially if weāre talking 4K and any sort of raytracing. If I can turn on a bunch of raytracing features and keep good performance by running at a lower resolution + DLSS thatās a pretty big advantage this gen, in my opinion.
Well I guess 4K with Ray tracing needs performance, sure.
Yeah, all the games they are comparing are without ray-tracing. They didnāt talk much about ray tracing. Iām guessing thatās a bad sign?
Iāll order up an 6800XT as soon as I can. I just wish I knew when that was.
Wait, what!? You absolutely DO need performance if you want to play at 1440p+ with ray tracing.
Diego
Every game needs DLSS - Iām eager for more games to have it. When I run Control with DLSS on there is almost no difference when looking side by side at DLSS off screens (some, very minor) but I jump from 55-65 FPS to 95-110 FPS at the same settings. Itās wild.
Also - āperformanceā is what you want bigger cards for so yeah DLSS is a pretty big deal.
How much VRAM do these cards have?
Comment deleted until I watch that stuff again :)
6800, 6800XT, and 6900XT are 16GB of GDDR6
stusser
6836
At the 3080/6800XT performance tier you definitely do care about performance even at 1440p, with raytracing on. Itās the difference between like 55fps and 90+ fps in Control, at 1440p.
Rage mode is not only their one-click overclocking but also their integration between AMD CPUs on AMD 500-series motherboards and 6000-series GPUs. If you donāt have all 3, you donāt get that benefit.
Well right. You have to regard 55 fps as inadequate. Clearly Qt3 does :-)
Iāll be interested in seeing if there are any edge cases that benefit from the increased memory.
Iād be perfectly fine with 55 FPS. But I do look at DLSS as future-proofing of a sort. If some crazy demanding game comes out and my (hoping to buy) 3070 is struggling with it, you can enable DLSS and no more struggle.
For me the decision is probably going to come down to a 3070 for 1440p gaming, because as long as DLSS catches on it should ensure I have to upgrade even less often unless something crazy expensive (computationally wise) comes along in the GPU space. It has .the potential to make it much harder to justify upgrading in the future.
stusser
6841
Anyone paying $700 for a videocard isnāt looking to play under 60fps, homie.
Extra memory doesnāt matter for 1440p, and never ever will. At 4k it probably wonāt matter over the next 5 years, versus 10GB. 8GB is probably not OK for the next 5 years at 4k.
The memory does matter for engineering stuff of course, just not gaming. But if you do that sort of thing youāre buying Nvidia for CUDA anyway.
Are the AMD performance comparisons against the comparable RTX card with or without DLSS and ray tracing on?
It appears that AMD is getting the same performance as those cards with lower power, but if the RTX gets another x% boost once DLSS is switched on, the comparison isnāt really valid. Same issue if one is running with ray tracing and the other isnāt (or, neither are, given it is a big feature this generation).
When do third party reviews come out?
stusser
6843
They say ābest APIā so my guess is DLSS and RT off, and ārage modeā on.
Donāt know when embargos are up, I would guess early November.
