mono
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I honestly don’t know. I’d have to imagine I signed up for it the day they were listed on the EVGA site.
Aceris
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The 6900XT pricing does make it clear that the 3090 pricing is a big cash grab by NVidia (as if that wasn’t already obvious).
Infinity cache (hate the name) is a good thing. I hope NVidia copy it :)
antlers
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The line on DLSS at Ars Technica is that it is great when it works, but it is image degradation when it doesn’t, and half the time (even in the same game) it doesn’t.
Considering nVidia is the king of proprietary horseshit, this is a weird complaint. Most everything AMD does is open and cross platform: Freesync, FidelityFX, Mantle becoming Vulkan… Compared to Gsync, DLSS, CUDA and a long history of literally vendor ID locking standard DX code paths, AMD offering some performance synergy between their GPUs and CPUs is nothing.
nVIDIA has made it clear that they want infinity cash.
Aceris
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Nvidia are awful too but there’s a difference between proprietary interface to your own shit (bad) and leveraging control of a platform to gain advantage in selling things that run on that platform (very bad).
Only if it’s “improper”. I don’t see anything about what AMD has done that is “improper”. Especially not when they are vastly outsold in the GPU market, and are far from a monopoly in the CPU market.
Do we know anything about pack-in games from AMD?
Aceris
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“Until AMD shows us otherwise, Nvidia’s proprietary DLSS 2.0 pipeline remains the industry’s leading upscaling option, and game studios have started embracing it in droves.” - Ars Technica 27 Oct 2020.
I’ve been quite hard on AMD so let me rebalance.
The new AMD cards sound awesome. The improvements they’ve made are a phenomenal technical achievement. Whether you go with team green or team red you will get a great gaming experience. And just like with CPUs competition is good for us in the end.
Editer
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Yep, that was it. Looks like the value argument is there, and possibly performance, but not shipping.
I do wonder if the AMD cards are going to be better for flight simulators. Both MSFS and DCS in VR are able to max out the 10GB of the Nvidia cards. My only regret is going to be if the AMD cards turn out to be noticeably better for sims due to the increased memory. (I haven’t seen DLSS support in flight or space sims; perhaps their open nature vs canned environments makes it less practical? Not that the DLSS list is very long overall anyway.)
As for Nvidia having a more mature ray-tracing development history, that’s true, but since the new consoles will both use AMD’s ray-tracing, developers will likely get good at optimizing AMD’s gen 1.
Really, really glad I didn’t get a 3090, looking at those 6900XT numbers.
On the mid-range front, the $50 difference probably doesn’t matter much. $50 means a lot if you’re spending $150 or $200, or even $250 or $300. Once you’re spending $550, I’m not sure $600 feels much different. And unless AMD drivers have changed a lot in the past half-decade, I’d pay $50 more for Nvidia’s drivers all else being equal.
I didn’t realize it was transferable! Otherwise I might have saved myself the rash purchase. (I was originally going to go 3070 or AMD for the second rig.)
I clicked for all of the 3080 models, so if I get a notification for any of the other SKUs I’ll pass it on.
EVGA didn’t have their “notify me” function up when the 3080 was first announced; I’d guess I clicked ALL the cards about a week after the 3080 announcement.
Nothing was said, and I can’t think they will have any. The pack-in games are when they’re trying to move inventory. AMD believes they don’t need any help moving these cards. Maybe later if demand slows and they want to clear out inventory for the next generation of cards.
The 3000 series cards come with Watch Dogs and Ryzen came with Valhalla until earlier this month.
Well, then they don’t have any. They announced pricing and release date, and it was their major event. They’ll have an architecture day soon where they go over the technical stuff, but that is extremely technical and not for consumers.
Not yet, but I’d put money on DiRT 5. They’ve had DiRT games previously on the AMD side as giveaways, and it was the first game seen in their video today.
Best Buy had a “big” drop of 3080’s about an hour ago. I managed to snag an EVGA XC3 Ultra that supposedly will arrive Nov 2. I’ll believe it when I see the shipping notification but optimistic for now. They had some new anti-bot measure where once you initially clicked add to cart you had to wait and watch the button until it reset to add to cart again then if you clicked in time again it would add to your cart and could check out.
(It took a few days for BB to get my FE shipped but it did, don’t panic)
Yeah I’m not putting my 2070S up for sale just yet!
I’m glad it worked for you. The popup said, “You have to take an additional step,” without actually saying what that step was. The Add to Cart button remained lit up, so I did the only thing I could - I spam clicked it. Nothing happened of course, the web page was effectively broken (reminder - it’s the year 2020 and web pages are breaking). Eventually I had to F5 whereupon it was OOS.
Fuck Best Buy.
Huh for me after I clicked add to cart the first time it greets out the button and said “please wait” with a pop up telling me to wait for the yellow add to cart to reappear then I’d have to click again and if that works check out as fast as possible because there’s no guarantee it will stay in your cart.
Who wants to help me parse the difference between the “Sold Out”, “Coming Soon”, and “See Details” buttons on the Best Buy site when searching for “RTX 3080”? Every card is actually sold out, but do the different buttons give availability clues to the initiated?
