stusser
7005
1% low is over 60fps so you’re doing great. Mine is like 40fps. CPU matters in WD3.
Although I didn’t test without ray-tracing because I mean, F that.
I used a 65" 4k for a monitor before, but it entailed a lap board on a rolling office chair (or, mini bar height table for standing) at a distance such that it filled my field of view as much as a regular monitor. It worked well enough for gaming, but the TV was old enough that extended work reading text would give me slight eye strain.
That’s what I’d do if I got this kind of TV monitor again - have it in a man cave with furniture that made it comfortable for productivity or recreation. Trying to force it onto a desk size distance sounds tricky.
Alternatively, on a desk I’d use only the 30" monitor equivalent of space, with the rest black barred out. Use full screen when controller gaming or on the couch. Is that easy to setup and switch between?
Kadath
7007
Mine has to do double duty with actual PC work, not just games, so that’s not an option. Especially since I am near-sighted.
I wonder if you read this part of my reply @Kadath - I’m suggesting with it on your desk you could essentially use only the space that is normally in your field of vision/normal for a monitor. Is the DPI too low in that situation?
Editer
7009
I set the 3080 up on my productivity/photography/video editing system and realized my second monitor, an almost seven-year-old Asus PB278Q, is connected by DVI because its HDMI and Displayport controller fritzed out earlier this year and that’s the only working port. Which is great, except the 3080 has no DVI connector. Tried an HDMI to DVI cable from my cable drawer, but it tops out at 1080p.
Luckily I was able to pick up an active Displayport-to-Dual-link-DVI adapter from Amazon and I’m back at 2560x1440 and I don’t have to budget for a replacement second display or stare at old-guy-sized 1080p text on a 27-inch monitor.
While going through my records trying to figure out when I bought the monitor I found an Amazon receipt for a Samsung 191T – 1280x1024 19-inch monitor and it cost $644 in 2004 when I bought it. Now it looks like I can get a great 144Hz 27-inch 1440p display for about $350. How times have changed.
Kadath
7010
Dunno but it’s an interesting idea. I’m locked in with the CX for next gen consoles now. Will see what CES brings…
So, with Zen 3 launching this week and having begun making purchases for my build, I get to join you guys in anxiously checking 3080 stock. Here’s the picture at one of the UK’s biggest PC parts retailers:
So, backlog cleared in 10 weeks, if no one else buys any.
And these are the only two times any card has ever been in stock on nowinstock:
Oct 23 2020 - 5:23 PM EST[Amazon UK - PALIT GamingPro NED3080019IA-132AA Out of Stock]
Oct 23 2020 - 5:12 PM EST[Amazon UK - PALIT GamingPro NED3080019IA-132AA In Stock for £719.99]
Oct 01 2020 - 2:14 PM EST[NVIDIA Store - NVIDIA RTX 3080 FE Out of Stock]
Oct 01 2020 - 2:08 PM EST[NVIDIA Store - NVIDIA RTX 3080 FE In Stock for £649.00]
So I guess that Moore’s Law Is Dead guy was (as predicted by people here) full of crap thta 3070 would be heavily available and Nvidia was ramping up for a big 3080 push now too.
I don’t recall him ever saying that.
He has been saying Big Navi will be in large numbers. It will probably still sell out due to demand, but it’s not a paper launch like Ampere.
He’s also said in recent weeks that Nvidia had cancelled a number of 3080 AIB models, because Nvidia is looking to respond to Big Navi. AIB partners are mad.
Real Actual Supply of RTX30X0 cards in 2020?
Soma
7015
lololololol
Once AMD starts shipping Big Navi, somebody will bound to jump ship though.
That’s my hope. I’m also hoping some frustrated 3080 buyers will switch over to 3070, though it could go the other way if 3070 proves more tough to find.
stusser
7017
That youtube guy had all sorts of conspiracy theories but really it just comes down to Nvidia bungling the 3080 launch.
The 3070 was tight, but supposedly if you were online ready to go at launch there was a 10 minute period where you could actually get one. The 3080s sold out in a millisecond.
Yeah I think the fact that there was a 10 minute window makes me more annoyed that I didn’t clear my schedule to be at a computer. But some people were there and still didn’t get through, so there’s no guarantee anyway. Plus I have a bunch of other stuff to spend money on!
morlac
7019
I thought the ten minute window was from retailers pausing when you added one to cart to allow you to complete purchase? Plus just about everyone has put in measure to try and stop the autobots or given up selling directly since the 3080 lunch. Do we have any actual shipped numbers? I suspect it wasn’t much better in reality, just handled better due to lessons learned.
stusser
7020
No, and that is certainly possible.
Aceris
7021
The anecdotal reports from streamers indicate maybe twice or more as many 3070s at brick and mortar stores on launch day as there were 3080s.
If you look at what proshop (who have decided to break the retailer code of omerta) are saying it’s consistent with much better 3070 availability. Of course, demand might be higher as well, especially given people who wanted a 3080 might “settle” for a 3070.
morlac
7022
Interesting, thanks for the link.
Same proshare data says they are only meeting 6.7% of demand for the 3070 and 6.9% for the 3080’s. Everyone should just get the 3090 as they are meeting a whopping 10.4% of demand!
That is pretty ugly. Looks like shipping a few more 3700’s but maybe not any easier to get? Though I wonder how many people or on both “demand” list from trying to get either like you said?
Yep its crazy the money Nvidia is leaving on the table , not being prepared.
Aceris
7024
I hardly think they’d be better off launching in January after 2 months of 6000 series sales.
Of course theyc ould have had more chips if they’d paid TSMC to manufacture some of them on 7nm. But they chose to increase margin instead by going with Samsung only. That might end up taking more money off the table than if nvidia had had good supply.
