Overclockers update:

Scan expecting 320 cards total this week

@Ginger_Yellow, where are you seeing those updates? I’ve been trawling the Scan and Over clockers sites but no dates provided on the 3070 pre-order cards.

OC is in the forum, there’s a stickied post.

Scan has a dedicated page:https://www.scan.co.uk/shops/nvidia/rtx-30-series-faqs

Thanks!

For some reason CurrysPCworld has the lowest 3070 prices so I’ve setup an email alert with them -but I’ve got a slight suspicion they may not get stock for a long time…

Wow, there’s some serious 3080 price gouging going on on the Amazon UK marketplace. Ā£1.4k for an MSI Gaming X Trio.

Good news! I got my 3080 (with a high spec PC wrapped around it).

Palit card, baseline model. Not one of the better models but pretty much what I was expecting and reviews indicate it’s pretty reasonable cooling wise.

Bad news! It looks like I got a weak ampere chip. It will boost to 1960 MHz, but if I let it the fans go crazy and the card hits >80 degC very fast and slows down. With some tweaking of temp targets and fan curves I have it running happily at ~1800 MHz at 76 degC with the fans at 40%, which is audible but only just.

I guess I could try undervolting it at some point, but if it’s a weak chip it probably won’t take an undervolt well. Anyway, it’s not like I need the extra performance.

Scan are down to 2935 pre-orders of 3080s with 324 expected to arrive this week. Looks like MSI have shipped the most.

Just want to drop this here before it’s relevant because I’ll never be able to find it later when it would be timely (after the launch of the new AMD cards):

YUUUUUUUUUUUP.

Honestly, the drivers are the biggest hurdle for me, and I know I’ve mentioned it before so I won’t harp on it but it doesn’t matter how fast/cheap a card is if there are crashy/graphical issues with the games I want to play when I want to play them. I see news bits now and then for ā€œgame Y getting an AMD driver update that fixes Xā€ where Y is often a game I long since already played. That would really, really tilt me.

I have a 5700XT, which was a nightmare driver-wise for a while. I also have a 2080 in another computer.

That said, I appreciate not having to login and the drivers not messing with game settings without asking.

That’s entirely optional. You don’t need GFE and you can pull down drivers manually.

That said, I have had GFE installed for years and it’s never touched my game settings, so I dunno.

I’ve used AMD GPUs exclusively for about 20 years and never really had a problem. I have a 5700 right now and the driver has great performance profiling features.

I have no doubt that it’s fine for many folks, but my experience was it was a bad experience, when I last had an AMD card, and I have consistently seen things that reinforce that concern, such as the odd news bit (like I mentioned) or a random webcomic (as posted above) that makes me think I’m probably best served steering clear for now.

Yes, but it’s obnoxious none-the-less.

And GeForce Experience has been set to automatically update game settings by default a few times. Perhaps it was unintentional.

I see this in my Nvidia driver updates, too. I suspect we’re somewhat conditioned to notice it more for AMD.

Oh, I’m not saying Nvidia is bug free, but I am saying they tend to have no issues for me. Also, they have things like ā€œgame ready driversā€ on release day, and are very quick to respond with new driver updates and have even made changes over the years such as no longer requiring a PC restart when you install a driver, a feature I think many folks take for granted, and I am very pleased with their support over the years.

AMD regularly posts new drivers right before major new games release, with specific support called out for those games.

Yeah, that’s how cognitive dissonance works.

AMD has had this for like a decade.