Aceris
7385
Undervolting is really shorthand for “undervolt/overclock” what you do is tell the card to run at a very low voltage, but a normal clockspeed. This gives you baseline performance with dramatically reduced poweruse (and therefore heat generation). Obviously as this is an overclock the card might crash, but there’s generally a reasonable amount of headroom in the silicon.
Hah, I followed the guide (1900Mhz at 950mV) and the card went to 91C. :)
It seems with defective (or highly subpar) cooling my hands are tied. Playing with sliders isn’t going to fix anything. (Unfortunately the temp limiter in Afterburner doesn’t work, whereas it does work in Velocity. For some reason.)
I paid Ebay scalping prices to get a 3080 now, and RMA’ing the card for a month sort of defeats the purpose. And PNY support already told me to deal with it. It appears I’m fucked either way.
Virtually no one owns (or reviewed) a PNY 3080 card so googling is of limited value.
With the temp limiter set to 83C the core clock runs around 1775Mhz.
E - I set the limiter to 85C, which keeps the GPU at 84C. GPU core clock now runs at 1815-1860Mhz.
J_Thomas
7387
Check for a firmware update for your card. If both or all three fans are running slowly, then it seems less likely a problem with faulty fans.
I agree, odd that all three fans would spin fine, just… slowly. PNY’s site is a bit of a joke. They have no firmware updates. I’m not sure I’ve ever updated the firmware on an Nvidia card.
E - found some BIOSs here. I have the newest.
TimJames
7390
Sad trombone. So much for delivery today. This is Best Buy curbside pickup.
Bummer. It really sucks to find out the day before a holiday that the gadget you were planning to enjoy won’t arrive.
For me there’s no big rush, but I’m worried I won’t get it at all now.
Best Buy says once you get into checkout that you’ve got the item reserved. I’m not sure that’s true.
LockerK
7393
There’s a non-zero chance your order was ‘lost’ in the back and will be purchased by an employee on December 3rd.
Exactly what happened to me a couple weeks back (with my HOTAS). Bastards.
I saw that story, but my chance of actually getting it is higher than it would be if I never made the order in the first place, and shipping it directly didn’t work at the time. So I’ll take my chances.
Aceris
7396
Looks like AMD set their own-card retail pricing unusually low in comparison to what they are charging AIBs for the silicon. The result? AIB cards (and most cards sold are AIB cards) have much higher MSRPs, to the point that they cost more than an AIB 3080.
Note that those AMD reference cards won’t be made beyond early 2021. There will be a limited total supply which will be way way less than the demand. And given what the demand is it’s hard to imagine AMD lowering the prices they charge AIBs. AMD and NVidia always lowball their own design pricing a bit, but AMD have taken it to a new level this time.
The outcome - the reason AMD did this - the media coverage of the 6800 vs 3070/3080 has been based on pricing that is really unrepresentative of the retail price of most of the 6800 cards. Realistically the 6800 might be a $620 card and the 6800 XT might be a $740 card. (I pulled these numbers out of thin air)
I guess it’s possible that the AIBs have looked at demand and decided they can set the MSRPs super high, but I am leading towards this being down to AMD.
stusser
7397
AMD’s costs are lower than Nvidia’s, particularly on memory, so they can adjust those prices as they see fit. Right now nothing is in stock anywhere so it’s a seller’s market for both red and green. Everybody will buy whichever one comes in stock first.
Aceris
7398
How do you know that? We know TSMC are more expensive than Samsung for chip fabrication. And while GDDR6x is certainly much more expensive than GDDR6, the AMD cards have more memory onboard.
Anyway AMD’s costs are irrelevant. What is relevant is what AMD are charging AIBs for the chips, and right now it looks like they are charging more for a 6800 XT than Nvidia does for a 3080.
You think so? I know it’s anecdotal but a lot of people here, and my work buddy, have all expressed that they’re only buying the NVIDIA cards.
stusser
7400
Did not mean to trigger your internet pedantry, of course I did not mean literally “everybody”.
TSMC 7nm is a much more mature process than Samsung 10nm and GDDR6 is cheap as chips compared to GDDR6X. It also requires less power.
Well, I wasn’t trying to be pedantic, but from discussions here I had the impression many people feel like DLSS is a big win for NVIDIA over the AMD cards… is that not a generally accepted opinion? I haven’t watched any comparative reviews so maybe that’s just something I picked up from around here.
I myself would rather have a DLSS option, if possible. So with Nvidia I will stay. :)
Control and Death Stranding sold me on the massive benefits of DLSS 2.0.
stusser
7403
If it takes off DLSS will be a big win yes, but so far few games support it. All things being equal I would prefer the Nvidia products for DLSS and better RT performance, but they’re pretty close this cycle so really just buy whichever one you can actually get.
Hopefully AMD releases some open standard library for their DLSS equivalent. That would certainly help adoption. It’s always up to AMD to make things standards.
