And Control is rumoured to be incoming. Again.

I played Quake II RTX and it’s hard for me to believe we were ever impressed by this gameplay. I know this is probably sacrilege to some. I was never a big fan of Quake II even though I played CTF quite a bit.

Agree, never a fan of quake 2. The weapons feel bad to shoot, and that’s the entire game.

UT99 for life! :)

I figured out why the fan noise seems louder to me. Apparently I had purchased an EVGA 1070ti FTW Ultra Silent and forgot about it. No wonder it was so quiet. These reviews from the same site show a 4 dB difference.


Fortunately this Gigabyte 3070 OC card includes a hardware switch to run a quiet mode that’s supposedly 3 dB quieter. Or just try the MSI Afterburner fan profile like Scott suggested. The temperatures will be higher of course so I need to keep an eye on it.

Like @Aceris a few weeks ago, I’m getting higher load temperatures (76C) than the reviews (66-70C) and the card doesn’t quite reach idle temperature consistently to go to fan stop. So I probably need to clean out some dust. I hadn’t opened the case since I built it 2 years ago. I think I cleaned the front dust filter once.

I’m confident I can tweak it to my liking from here. I’m triggering that scientific side of my brain again. But I can’t mess with any of it tonight because I need some sleep!

Tweaking the 3080 is interesting! The power limit looms way larger than everything else, at least on the stock 320W cards. Different games/benchmarks use radically different amounts of power at different clocks. And the card does some of its own adjustments under the hood (based on thermals) so doesn’t stay exactly on the V/Hz curve that you give it.

There are multiple points. 83 degrees is the (default) “target”, and above that there are additional points where it will throttle more aggressively/shut itself down.

The GPU should be well below 83 degrees in normal operation, but it’s not going to hurt the card if you hit the 80s due to turning the fans down or a badly ventilated case or whatever.

This discussion about noise has made me wonder… Are the fans on GPUs user replaceable? For instance if someone wanted a quieter fan can we swap those out, or are they too integrated into the guts of the card?

They are if you’re really committed but its not usually easy. Gamers Nexus teardown videos go into this. I would say not in practice, personally.

3060 Ti reviews now up…

Kind of crazy the review embargo would drop before they even announce it.

I can’t see how the fans work - does this have one blower, one pass through like the 3080?

My assumption is it works the same as the 3070, not the fancy 3080 setup.

The 3060ti is a great value for $400. Everybody in that price bracket should buy one, if they end up in stock anywhere.

I’ve replaced the entire heatsink/fan apparatus on a Radeon 6870 once with some janky-ass third party thing when the fans died. It sucked ass.

So I guess there isn’t a $250-300 bracket anymore, just like the years ago $200 bracket is dead, just like the $150 bracket went away (like a decade ago now). Sad.

I know to a large extent it’s just inflation, but I think we’ve outpaced that by a fair bit.

Yes, Nvidia definitely increased prices with Turing and even Pascal. Ampere pulls that back a bit.

There are still lots of people who want to pay $300 or $200 for a videocard, so those GPUs will exist, they just haven’t launched for this generation yet.

Yeah, stock is always going to be the question. The upcoming 3070ti will also be interesting and they should neatly box in the 6800 from what I’m hearing. I also wonder what the “real” prices will wind up being, as it seems like fewer and fewer models are sticking close to the reference MSRP.

Eh? 1650 super is a Turing card at like $150. It just didn’t make sense to do a Turing RTX card because the RT performance would be bad. They always release the more expensive cards first.

NVidia will definately do a 3060 at $300-340ish. What they do below that is a question - whether it’s part of the 3000 RTX range or some intermediate 26xx thing without the RT and/or Tensor cores.

I guess I should say the price of the card that used to always be in the performance/price sweet spot (maybe it’s just me)… the bronze tier card. That has been steadily rising with each generation. I didn’t mean that there won’t be a card at all in that price segment, just lamenting that the bronze tier won’t be. And a last gen card doesn’t count, of course older cards are cheaper.

Sorry, words are hard and I wasn’t clear.

I’m glad I’m not the only one in this position :) I’m also in the ‘bronze tier’ level and quite disappointed that said tier doesn’t exist at the moment (even among older cards because they stopped making them all before the new generation exists!).

You can sign up for auto notify on them at EVGAs site. I’m hoping that put me in line.