Daagar
7686
Corporate: ā¦
Me: Theyāre the same picture!
probably for the best, or itād be setting off some automated sweepers all the time.
This mirrors my anecdotal understanding. Iāve been fortunate enough to ask some pretty smart graphics programmers over the years though!
AMDās strategy is to build a hardware pipeline which allows parallel execution of instructions. Unfortunately DX11 couldnāt do much with this because so much of the graphics pipeline was single threaded.
Vulkan and DX12 significantly improve multithreading throughout the graphics pipeline, along with instructions being moved to the GPU to execute. Thatās why AMDās hardware often really shines with DX12 games. AMDās like a skilled technical boxer - great inside the ring theyāve trained for.
In contrast, NVIDIA are like an experienced street fighter. They know every dirty trick and use them all. As noted above, NVIDIA will go so far as to rewrite the gameās calls if NVIDIA decided itās more efficient. This approach works very well with DX11 and earlier, since the graphics driver is so critical to the graphics pipeline.
However, with DX12 the role of the driver is intentionally minimized to reduce overhead. That leaves a lot fewer opportunities for NVIDIA to claw back performance via optimizations.
Itāll be interesting to see how these different strategies play out as the industry increasingly shifts to DX12.
Aceris
7689
Yep. NVidiaās behaviour is appalling, and Iām very curious about the whole story of how the email came to be sent.
Having said that not impressed with the āSteve does say nice things about NVidiaā argument - heās not a shill or a fanboy, but his 6800 and 6800XT reviews are super-negative about raytracing in general (which is a fair opinion, and I think CP2077 has made him reconsider a little) and donāt mention DLSS that I noticed (which makes the reviews terrible, IMO). Those are the reviews people will go to when deciding which graphics cards to buy, and will get way more views than the other content.
He also says some things that suggest the differences in RT performance are down to games being more optimized for the NVidia cards, which thereās probably some truth in, but I donāt think is a fair thing for the reviewer to say.
I can see why NVidia are pissed, although a much better response would have been "We believe RT and DLSS are major competetive advantages for our GPUs and should be mentioned in reviews which compare our GPUs to competitorās products. We were pleased to see your segment on RT performance, and we welcome your viewpoint that RT doesnāt improve the experience - ultimately gamers will decide. However weād encourage you to include a similar segment on DLSS, in which you give relative performance numbers and give your opinion of the technology (whatever that might be).
If youāve seen the Linus rant, notice how Linus is at pains to point out that heās met the guy once and doesnāt remember that? Wonder why he says that (which Iām sure is true) twice? Because Linus owns Floatplane, and Hardware Unboxed is a major Floatplane customer.
In 2020, what makes a corporation a criminal?
Getting caught.
Soma
7692
My goodness Iām tempted to do a sidegrade/minor upgrade and get a 2060 S to play Cyberpunk at 1080p60.
Not sure if you can find one, but even if you could that seems like a terrible idea vs a 3060Ti
Soma
7694
IF you can find a 3060Ti. I can find a local retailer selling 2060 S RIGHT NOW.
Yeah nah, probably better off saving the dough for next year.
Quaro
7695
There are also 1660 Supers (and sometimes 1660 Tis) are popping up for $230 ish, as well as full systems with a 1660 for $700 like in the Stusserbeast thread. A sidegrade only makes sense if youāre planning on building a whole new system soon, then you can leave the 2060 or 1660 in your old machine and get some utility out of it.
Soma
7696
I donāt know how much my Skylake i7-6700 with a 2060S or 1660 S/Ti can fetch in the open market next year, probably less than I think. Probably not worth it to sidegrade. Just need to pretend Cyberpunk doesnāt exist until I get a new system next yearā¦
FINALLY got a 3070 for my nephewās build on Newegg. Had to get it through a bundle, but weāll just use the PSU for it, anyway.
Snagged this card:
In this bundle:
Using falcodrinās Twitch stream running in a tab in the background to keep apprised of availability.
Huh. Didnāt think Newegg got stock today
Happened shortly after 8PM ET. ONLY in combos, however.
Skipper
7703
I attempted to do the same with a cheaper but nice gaming rig for my two nephews to share with a build from NZXT. Unfortunately they have the card but are slammed due to COVID and Christmas rush. It may be an after Christmas gift at this point, though that doesnāt bother me much.
Scotten
7704
This hardware shortage is killing me. I need to start a new PC from the ground up and decent CPU and (even more so) GPU are near impossible to get my hands on. I think I have an AMD Ryzen coming sometime after Christmas but I canāt find any graphics cardsā¦ they evaporate way too quickly. Grrrr.
