When do the next generation GPUs drop?

[TheWombat]

I wonder who is footing the bill for developing that?

[schurem]

Looking at that I cant help but wait for the other shoe to drop

[Quaro]

The low-end is going to be 1650 -> 1660 Super/Ti -> 2060 Super for a long time, probably. Honestly all the 2000 series are TSMC 12nm – why not just keep making 2070s and 2080s until the Samsung 8nm can handle the capacity? It’s weird but better to sell something than nothing.

[Dan_Theman]

Yeah; if they’re going to do this, go all in. That said, perhaps they’re still limited on production lines and chose the most optimal. Either which way, Nvidia’s handling of things this past year has been less-than-stellar. If only AMD had hit the mark a bit better with their 6000 series. sigh

[Daagar]

@Daagar

An 8GB 2060Super at ~$230 fills the market for an entry-level card in place of the previously rumored 3050/3050ti.

Bwahahaha. I’m so naive. The re-released 2060S is being set at $400 - higher than the new 3060. The basic 2060 is $300, and only has 6GB of vram. So much for wishful thinking.

[stusser]

They both failed to ship product, and AMD actually shipped far less GPUs than Nvidia.

Also Navi 2 isn’t very impressive compared to Ampere at its price points, unless you need a ton of rasterization performance and don’t care about anything else where the RTX3090 is severely overpriced compared to the RX6900XT.

[Dan_Theman]

My local Microcenter now shows 7 6900 XT’s in stock; the PowerColor Red Devil models. They’re just insanely overpriced for what they should be, coming in at $1460 + tax. I keep holding out hope the tariff waiver will kick in, mining yields will plummet once again, and a little bit of sanity will find its way to the market.

In the meantime, there’s that small, stupid part of me saying “$1500 for a GPU isn’t THAT much, is it?”
(yes; yes, it is, especially when it sucks at ray tracing and AMD still doesn’t have a ready response to DLSS 2.0)

edit - humorously, 6 are still in stock. Were these Nvidia 3000 series cards, they would have been snatched up by the first 7 people in line at the store before it opened this morning.

[Houngan]

Four years ago I bought an Alienware (significant upcharge for name/prebuilt) with a 1080 maybe six months after it released for $1,200. I thought that was a crazy price at the time but I was just through with researching parts. Turns out (and I know I keep crowing about how great the 1080 is/was) it’s still faster than cards being gamed right now at near that price, just for the card. Wait, wait, wait.

[Dan_Theman]

@Houngan

Wait, wait, wait.

Yep; that is the way. Still one 6900 XT left, but they’re now flush with nine MSI 3090’s for the “low, low price” of $2030. Just pure insanity.

[rei]

At what resolution?

[morlac]

I would say I am shocked the availability of all the new hardware and the astronomical pricing but it was pretty obvious this would happen, just not to this extend. So glad I didn’t wait in October; Same build from NZXT I got then is now $150 more and with a 3070 not even a 3080 . This may be the worst time to buy a new system I can remember. Sure lots of new toys out there but whats the point if you can’t get them or afford them due to markups. I can sell my 3 month old 3080 for almost double what I paid for it, that is crazy. $960 for a new one from BB…wtf. Help me, I’m even considering it?

1. When do you all expect this to normalize?
   —I’d guess not till next Christmas if not Spring/Summer of 2022
2. Do you think when it does prices will go back to launch levels?
   —I’m gonna say not until next wave of Nvidia and AMD upgrades come and then only while supplies last as they phase them out. Like the “super” round recently.

[Dan_Theman]

While tariffs and production lines make a some sense to cause price increases, I’ve never seen manufacturers willingly drop prices until they have a glut to get rid of. There’s a part of me which doubts they will (or at least not significantly) until refresh-time because of this, but then there’s the other part of me which believes we may reach a breaking point for the consumer beforehand.

[espressojim]

@morlac

This may be the worst time to buy a new system I can remember.

I have given up worrying about a new system. My GTX 1080 and i7-8930 will have serve for a bit longer. Shoutout to cyberpunk 2077 not being a “must play right this second” game that will probably improve significantly by the time I get the hardware to play it at a fairly high spec.

[Nesrie]

@morlac

This may be the worst time to buy a new system I can remember.

You must have not been building years ago when the price of RAM doubled due to an earth quake like over night. And there was another natural event, which I forget what it was, that did something strange to HDD. There have been many, many times when a single component skyrocketed these builds.

[stusser]

That was just memory, CPUs and GPUs have never been so hard to find.

[Nesrie]

@stusser

That was just memory, CPUs and GPUs have never been so hard to find

It was only the other parts of computer you actually have to have in order to make a computer but yeah sure, worst time ever.

[stusser]

RAM was never hard to find, prices just doubled due to that earthquake or fires. But even at double price, it was never particularly expensive. 16GB might cost $200, big whoop.

Right now CPUs and GPUs are hard to find at all, unless you buy from a scalper. It really is a unique situation, I’ve never seen anything like it.

[Nesrie]

Yeah hard to believe demand might go down when things are doubled.

[Soma]

@Nesrie

And there was another natural event, which I forget what it was, that did something strange to HDD.

Flooding in Thailand shut down lots of HDD factories in 2011-12.

Thailand floods to lead to hard drive shortages for months | ZDNet

[Misguided]

Was that the same quake that led to the Fukushima Daiichi meltdown? My dad nearly died from sepsis and was in the hospital, so I was sitting there stuck in a hospital room with CNN spring footage 24/7. I remember thinking Godzilla was going to storm up out of the water at any moment.