8126

My plan is to buy enough of them and re-sell to be able to afford a RTX3090 from a scalper. :P

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Administration officials said Biden’s executive order, to be signed at 4:45 p.m. EST Wednesday, will launch an immediate 100-day review of supply chains for four critical products: semiconductor chips, large-capacity batteries for electric vehicles, rare earth minerals and pharmaceuticals.

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…and what will such an order actually accomplish, other than providing work for a number of apparently under-employed bureaucrats?

8129

Well my local Microcenter has plenty this morning, but they’re ridiculously overpriced.

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I guess the EVGA one is the only reasonably one being “only” $60 more than the Nvidia MSRP.

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The 3060 is pretty much on par with the previous gen 2080 right?

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I don’t think we have official benchmarks yet, but the leaked ones said it’s slightly better than a 2070. So if that’s the case, that’s too high a price to pay for that.

Link:

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Yeah, the 3060ti is basically a 2080S, roughly the same as current-gen consoles (but better on RT, and supporting DLSS).

The 3060 is more like a 2070 non-super. It’s OK if you can find it at MSRP, but not great. Way prefer a 3060ti even if targeting value. It’s weaksauce.

Its performance isn’t really the problem, with the 3060ti already hitting 2080S performance, the 2070 is a reasonable tier below that. But not for $329. If it was a $279 or even $299 card, it would make a lot more sense.

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Yikes, looking at those 3060 prices make me feel very lucky for getting a 3060 Ti very near the original MSRP in December, even though at the time it felt like a compromise (over targeted 3070).

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3060ti I think was an appropriately priced card at $399, offering 2080S performance. It was pretty darn close to a 3070 (==2080ti) costing $100 more. 3060 non-ti is a poor value, but if you need a GPU, any GPU, I guess have at it.

8135

I just keep crossing my fingers that my 2070S doesn’t die.

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I didn’t go to Microcenter this morning since these are not a good value, but check out what’s left now:

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So they pretty much sold them all anyway, despite the terrible value.

EDIT: And now all sold out.

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3060 got 4 gb of RAM more than 3070 or 3060 Ti. I wonder if it matters or not.

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For gaming, I always had the impression extra VRAM was better for textures, but I’m guessing it likely won’t make a dent, here.

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I think it’s a slower/smaller bus though, so in scenarios where you don’t use the extra VRAM, the 3060 falls behind. And at this point, it seems 8 GB is enough for games.

Now, if you’re let’s say in the business of 3D art production and you’re using software like Blender or Substance Painter - these are applications that have no trouble filling up all of your available VRAM.

8140

It’s not even a great 1440p card so no, the extra RAM is completely and utterly worthless. Those prices are downright offensive for such a weaksauce GPU. Don’t buy it over MSRP. It’s debatable whether it’s worth buying at list price.

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Yeah; in my desperation I put in for the Newegg lottery for the $330 versions (and lost, of course), but it would have been a bittersweet “win” had I somehow defied odds.

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I expect the RX6700 (releasing March 3rd) will handily beat it in rasterization since the 3060 is such a weakling, but without DLSS and with weaker RT it may be a toss-up which one you want as a 1080p/low-end 1440p gamer.

The question is how much aggression AMD shows. They could easily launch a $349 GPU with 3060ti performance and just demolish the 3060.

8143

The 6700 would have to be buyable for it to matter.

8144

True dat.

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Reviews are out:

TLDR: buy 3060 Ti instead from a value-for-money perspective, if you can find Ti at MSRP.