stusser
8306
No, it’s fine. Really they’re all fine, just some are more fine than others.
Tim_N
8307
I have a PNY Revel 3090 and I have really liked it so far. Good form factor, not too much noise or heat, and like in your case it had more availability for me than the other brands.
Soma
8308
I reckon that canal business plus ongoing supply issue will push stock level even lower and price even higher. So have to pounce on even PNY otherwise there will be nothing left for a few months.
Nothing wrong with PNY. They specialize in memory and are mostly a basic no-frills brand, but I don’t recall seeing any criticism of their quality.
Aceris
8310
I have a Palit card, which I believe is the same PCB as PNY, and while I agree it is “fine”, one warning I would give is that the base model Palit cards, unlike most AIBs and the FE, have the minimal reference-spec VRM. This does affect the power efficiency of the card a little, and since the cards are power limited this has a knock on effect on performance. (It took me a hile to figure out what was going on, but I’m reasonably confident this is it)
Still, if you can get one close to MSRP wrapped in a PC that’s probably half what you would pay for a more “prestige” brand so…
Anyone expecting anything from Intel’s new GPUs? Any chance they’ll be good enough and in quantity enough to actually matter?
Maybe at mid-range performance.
I haven’t taken the time to look at the stats, try and compare with current GPU’s to see what the performance might be, I imagine, pretty much V1 GPU, drivers are going to be less than ideal, why risk it?
But the way things are going, all Intel needs to be a major player is to actually show up and not completely suck. A GPU in the hand with less than ideal drivers is better than 2 theoretical perfect GPU’s that you can’t actually buy.
But I guess we’ll see…
What’s the general consensus on the RX 6700 XT? Until recently I was looking at a plain RTX 3060 as my only real option for an upgrade (from a 970!), I’d have much preferred a Ti version but yeah, that’s not happening! It seems the RX 6700 XT is a much better value card, with performance more like the Ti, but without the RT or DLSS. I see there’s FSR coming at some point maybe in 2021 perhaps, but who knows.
My gut tells me the AMD card is a lot more sensible despite being a bit more expensive, the 3060 seems to be generally regarded as a bit disappointing. Any thoughts?
For context, my old PC’s remains with the 970 in it needs a new motherboard, and given its age I’m pretty much looking at starting from scratch other than maybe a few bits and pieces.
It’s a decent board for 1440p.
The only problem is that it’s impossible to find in stock, and if you do, it’s priced like a 6900XT or higher.
This situation is insane. I set up a stock alert for 6800XTs on Nowinstock when they launched back in November. I’ve only gotten one stock alert in four and a half months, and they were gone the second I clicked on the link.
I’ve pretty much thrown in the towel on any GPU upgrade for the foreseeable future.
KevinC
8316
For me personally, DLSS is one of the biggest improvements to happen in the GPU space for a long long time. Not all games support it of course but for those that do, I wouldn’t ever want to go without it. Just speaking for myself, if I were in that boat I’d be holding out for a Nvidia card for that reason.
Yep, DLSS is a must going forward, all AAA games should be planning to use it.
Apparently the next Switch is going to have DLSS, I imagine it’s going to become standard for games to care less about resolution than they’ve had to before.
Is DLSS expected to eventually be available to all games, or is there some cost that limits it to AAA? Or, is it just that only AAA games push last gen hardware enough to warrant such a magically performance boost?
At this point, it’s mainly a question of the engine having the right temporal information (and Unreal Engine has it built in now, though I think still requiring Nvidia approval). So not necessarily an additional cost if starting from the ground up, but if you’re not thinking about it ahead of time, or just not planning to use TAA, difficult to retrofit.
stusser
8321
Rumors are that DLSS 3.0 will automatically support all games using TAA at the driver level. That will be a big deal.
KevinC
8322
If that’s the case it’s going to be even more amazing. Also, the rumors of a new Switch using DLSS… if true, damn, that is going to be incredible.
Sure would be nice. As I understand it, the big difference aside from quality between 1.0 and 2.0 is titles no longer need to be sent to Nvidia for them to add their “secret sauce,” but the devs still need to work it in.
stusser
8324
Right, DLSS 2.0 doesn’t need to be individually trained for specific games. Also it actually matches or exceeds native image quality in DLSS quality mode, and it supports dynamic resolution scaling and VR.
DLSS 3.0, if the rumors are true, devs won’t need to do anything to support it if the game uses TAA. I expect many new games will support it regardless, just so you can change quality options inside the game, so the main effect will be on old games, which run perfectly fast on any GPU supporting DLSS anyway. I guess you’ll be able to run Bioshock Infinite at 16k or whatever in 2032.
Aceris
8325
Yeah. And both Nvidia and AMD seem to be treating the “low end” - which until recently we would have caleld the mid range - with utter contempt. The 3060 is underspecced for the (hypothetical MSRP) price and the reviews I saw of the new AMD card were pretty negative. If intel can show up with something attractive priced that people can actually buy they can probably carve out a space.
Also intel are very invested in ML, and might have a shot at implementing a DLSS-alike.
Still I expect the gen1 cards at least to suck. Badly.
