8707

Oh come now :)

8708

3070 FE retails for $500, but most of these “OC” 3070 cards that manufacturers release are around $750 (EVGA being the exception, they stay much closer to MSRP). So I would imagine the new 3070Ti will run $850-900 for most manufacturers.

8709

Best Buy is gonna have at least almost a dozen 3070ti founders cards for sure! At $599.

8710

And maybe you’ll have 5 whole seconds to get an order in because the miners don’t know if these will work yet.

Oh wait no, scratch that, the scalper bots are still active.

8711

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8712

Yeah, I think I could probably sell my brand new in-box shrinkwrapped 3080 FTW3 Ultra pretty easily to pay for that 3080ti.

8713

Just so you everyone knows what you’re competing against:

8714

Probably two of them, if you could somehow manage to snag retail.

8715

Oh I definitely won’t pay over MSRP (for the AIB card). I plan to join the EVGA queue and consider whether I want to buy it when my number finally comes up. That’s what I did with the FTW3.

8716

Also sign up for the Elite member stuff on EVGA, you can spin the wheel for up to 40% off your next order. I got 20% off good for 90 days.

Elite members will get 24 hours to pre-order/queue new cards early.

Then again , they have advertised it so much that I bet everyone is Elite now, lol.

8717

Yeah I’m elite, but only got 5%. So lower-case elite, not Elite.

8718

Is that something that happens when you sign up for Elite? I have no recollection of what it was for me, or I’m at the tail end :)

8719

Yes, you get a free spin on their wheel when you first qualify as elite.

8720

Make sure to select your shirt size!

8721

One of the Discords I follow for alerts is FIXITFIXITFIXIT (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_T9_1FWhPeaNtQeZbD3u0A) which I honestly don’t know much of anything about. Except the discord is really good for dinging when a card is available.

He’s saying that there may be an in-store only initial launch at Best Buy for the 3080Ti. So, get your camping gear out, I guess.

Edit: On their Youtube just now someone issued the command to give info on BB drop and this spit out from their chatbot: “The Next Bestbuy online camping event happens on June 3rd. 10:00AM - 4:00PM EDT. They are your best shot at a GPU.”

8722

290W TDP for the 3070 Ti. That’s a 70W bump over the 3070, higher than I expected given the specs. Is GDDR6X power hungry?

8723

I guess I’m a bit naive in that while I knew about resellers marking up hugely, and while I was aware of bots, I have never really taken the time to learn about just how shitty these guys are (and I’m sure they’d just smile and tell me that they’re not doing anything illegal and that we’re living in a capitalist society after all). “Fine, but you’re still a shitty human being.”

So I read that whole thread you linked to, and while I’m guessing most of you already know this, I did not. Apparently, these bot guys are paying anywhere from $650 to $3,000 for a key for a bot program. And if you can’t afford the key, the bot can be rented for a couple hundred a month.

Reading further, a lot of retailers seem to have caught on and have managed to block the use of bots on their sites, while others have not.

Some people in that thread are saying that the OP was posting his ‘amazing success story’ in order to sell his spare bot key. Reading along, lots of people were selling or renting out their spare keys, while lots of others appeared to be lined up to buy them. They’d apparently heard about this awesome way to make big bucks and are flooding in, wanting to get a piece of that action.

All of that made me wonder just how much of that entire thread is shysters trying to take advantage of other shysters by promoting bots and making everything look like mega-profit is virtually assured by investing in their bot. I say that because others were cautioning, “It’s not that easy.”

Also, there was a lot of sharing of information on which retailers they were having success with. And why would you share that kind of information with your competition?

I dunno. There was so much blatant greed going on in that thread that I was cringing while reading it.

I did put myself on EVGA’s list a couple weeks ago because I’m patient and my 1070FE has been a faithful card, and I figure I won’t really be ready to upgrade for maybe 6 months anyway, and EVGA’s system seems fair enough.

But lord, after reading that screed of greed, I think I’ve picked a good time to go retro with my gaming for a while. That read was seriously depressing.

8724

Yes it is.

8725

Yep, it’s all numbers to them. I buy this for $x, I pick up some product or get it delivered, then I resell on eBay or Amazon and make $y. They only care about x and y. That they are scalpers and ruining an entire year of GPU sales during a global chip shortage? No matter, that’s just opportunity to them.

8726

Botting is becoming an industry apparently, and it’s not limited to GPUs. I watched this recent segment on Vice News that featured a guy who uses a bot to buy sneakers: