Honestly they should just put every drop of new video cards out as an auction. If someone is willing to pay $1000 now for a 3060 (which there many cards going for that on Amazon) then let the manufacturer make that money. Eventually the thirst for that price goes away and then it drops to $900, then lower and lower and no where along the way do the scalpers have any room for profit.

Awhile back I read that some of the people in the shoe bot game were none too happy that the bots were being used for more and more things. The concern is a fear that the government will get involved. I learned that the FTC already stepped in once with the BOTS Act, focused on concert ticket botters and resellers. Would be real easy for them to expand that Act

Info on in-store 3080ti launch availability. If you like camping.

That is a sad list of stores. So is BB getting like a total of like100 cards? LoL.

There’s one near me. I’d be willing to show up 7:30 AM but not camp out all night or whatever. Probably not worth trying.

The theory was that Nvidia had been binning GA102 chips, with the best ones going to 3090s, the worst ones to 3080s, and saving up the middle bins for the 3080ti, so there would be a huge initial volume available at launch. That theory looks to be wrong. They’re definitely binning, but the volume is a naw.

I will definitely swing by my Best Buy tomorrow morning. It’s close, and that’s around the time I leave the house anyway. If I see a line, though, I’m out.

I completely agree with this approach - I’d much prefer the manufacturers to run their own auctions and get the excess profit for capacity expansions, rather than scalpers and bots running the show.

I watched a couple of reviews and wow, the 3080ti is sub par to say the least. Just going by MSRP, the ti is like 70 percent more than a regular 3080 and gives a 4-8 percent performance increase. Yeah… No.

That said, in the world we live in now finding one at MSRP could be considered a real deal.

Nah, looks like 15-20% in most games from what I’ve seen. Still a lot of money for what you get.

The issue is that previously the x80ti would be the same GPU as the Titan, while the x80 would be one tier below. That is not the case this generation, the 3080, 3080ti, and 3090 are all the same chip, just binned down. So the 3080ti has 17% more cores than the 3080 and thus it will perform roughly 17% better. You’re comparing apples to apples. And that is supported by benchmarks.

That’s a 77% cost premium for a 17% performance gain which is obviously a poor deal if MSRPs meant anything. But they don’t.

Huh, I need to check around more. I watched the review by Gamers Nexus and it did not look good.

I didn’t watch the full GN video yet but their conclusion is solid, it’s offensively overpriced (if MSRPs matter).

I enjoyed Tom’s hardware review:

Yes, much as I don’t love Tom’s hardware, that is the general impression.

I’m guessing any 3070Ti reviews will be closer to 6/10?

The GN review focused more on game performance, something I tend to focus on more than 3dMark and other benchmark software out there.

And I think you hit on a key thing here, MSRP. In the current market 1200 bucks would be a ā€œstealā€. Reality is very few will be able to grab a FE version.

More than a few of my friends held out for the 3080ti. Their thinking was it would be just like when the 1080ti came out. Very much not the case with the 3000 series.

I am interested in them for sure, that DDR6x memory speed is gonna make some kinda difference.

That wasn’t smart, for the reason I noted earlier-- there is no higher-end Titan chip. The 3090 is the Titan this generation, and it’s the same chip.

O I know and tried to warn them it would be different.

Side note, the Best Buy in select stores only thing will be glorious. And by glorious I mean I expect fights to break out and other crazy.

Still seems like 3060 Ti and 3070 were the real value cards in the 30xx generation (at MSRP).