stusser
1741
You need to attend a school that purchased a volume license for Windows 10, so it’s either free or reduced price. I assume they check it via the email address, yeah.
I’m a tech luddite, so I’m still stuck on Win7 by choice, but my poor girlfriend just went through HELL this past weekend doing this update. Neither one of us had any idea that Win10 was doing a “major update”, and she claims it gave her no warning before she went ahead with it. To her, it seemed like “just another update”.
I was at my desktop out here in the living room, while she was across the room with her brand new shiny laptop. She mentioned something about doing an update, and I just nodded absently. After a while, she began swearing more and more, until she finally said she was going to pack up her computer and send it back because it was frozen up and apparently broken. That got my attention. I told her not to do anything drastic while I looked around online. That’s when I found out about this major update. Anyway, we just left it alone. It appeared to hang up on two occasions, but eventually (and luckily for us) it sorted itself out, and aside from having to change a few of her settings back the way they were, I think it’s fine now. I hope. Total time for her update was right around two hours. We were both getting pretty scared.
Yeah, I’m not aware of any advance warning that this “update” is essentially a full Windows reinstallation, complete with replacing drivers and uninstalling applications it doesn’t like.
We are talking about Windows. Everyone is ‘vulnerable’ by default. But most of the updates windows 7 and 8 users (that care about this stuff) are blocking are not security related primarily, although i’m sure as months go on we will start to see updates labelled as ‘security updates’ when in fact they are just those annoying windows 10 spyware components (again).
stusser
1746
Yeah, it was not well-communicated. It’s just another windows update, that happens to take a very long time to complete (as opposed to the 5 minutes they normally do) and can hose your computer, and resets a bunch of settings, and changes how your computer works in small ways that aren’t explained to the user. Windows as a service, yay!
You guys are making me want to stick with my Win 7. It’s also making me think that my next non-gaming PC is going to be a Chromebook.
Some us are having a good experience with it. My father updated all his machines to 10 and is en joying the experience. I have 2 more machines to update, but since my mean rig was screwed up by an AVG program, I want to make sure everything is backed up before going forward.
Yes it is. Some of us have concerns over the amount of bandwidth updates use, when we are paying for it.
stusser
1750
I will never purchase a windows PC for any purpose other than gaming ever again. But I have the freedom to do so, I’m not particularly price sensitive. Macs are still pretty expensive.
Exactly. In my case I have shitty satellite Internet which has a daily bandwidth cap of a whopping 250 megabytes, so if I let everything auto-update as it pleases I would never be allowed to actually use my connection because it would constantly be in a throttled state.
However, I do have free bandwidth between 2 and 7 AM, so if I were actually given the option to choose when I could download those updates, it wouldn’t be an issue. Of course such a feature is impossible for anybody* to implement, which is why if I want to update 10 I have to stay up till 2 in the morning, switch metered connection to “off”, schedule a shut down for 7 AM, and then remember to switch metered connection to “on” the next time I boot up lest it drain my bandwidth. It’s not a pain in the ass at all.
*There are actually a few programs that accommodate my needs. Deluge, for instance, lets you select which hours of the day you’d like to utilize for downloading, which is perfect.
stusser
1752
You can tell win10 not to install updates at all in the group policy editor, and it respects this setting. Then you can manually run windows update at 2AM, tell it to update, and it’ll reboot whenever the hell it feels like it-- win10 does not respect that setting.
Alternatively you could script this powershell tool to install all updates then reboot in a scheduled task.
I’m starting to regret the plans I made to upgrade my gaming machines to Win10. Should I abandon them and just stick with Win7? I have a shiny new laptop for work that came with Win10 and it’s been fine so far, but I also don’t care how that thing upgrades. My gaming machines are like my babies, I come at them like an IT professional.
Meh. I have four machines - a custom-built desktop, an off-the-shelf Dell desktop, an original Surface Pro and an old Dell laptop - all with Win10 and have yet to experience any of the stuff being complained about here. It’s been pretty dang smooth. And the Surface and Dell laptop are on the fast Insider ring, so I get even more (theoretically) less-baked updates.
It’s working great for me, but I’m not one to make a fuss.
If you consider your machines “babies”, though, you might want to re-consider unless you fancy spending your life in this silly thread chewing over minutiae.
Well, I have 3 actual children so I AM being a bit facetious. :)
Example: In my Check for Updates window, it tells me there’s an error with the Windows Update, so it will try later. “Looking for information about the latest updates?” Oh, that sounds promising. I wonder what happens if I click “Learn more”. Patch notes? A knowledgebase article on potential solutions to installation problems? A forum where users discuss the update and errors? No, it’s a fucking Bing search for “check for updates in windows 10”. Are you kidding me?
rei
1758
Yeah, this riled me too when I found it. I’d been meaning to post an angry post about it but got distracted.
Also, messages that are possibly not as reassuring as Microsoft intends: holding “Your files are exactly where you left them” on screen for a full minute while the background pulses as if it’s trying to hypnotise you into believing something, which previously it hadn’t occurred to you to even doubt.
A “cumulative update” for the update just dropped, as usual without any information as to what it contains.
