That is a hilariously big margin considering the recall signature count, though. The aftergame on the exit polls and turnout variations should be something.

One report I’ve seen had the money gap at 8 to 1, which is completely unbelievable. What happened there?

LOLOLOLOL Fucking landslide. FUCKING LANDSLIDE. A self-inflicted shotgun blast to the head of the American Cancer that is the public sector unions, the teacher’s unions in particular. The people recognized that Walker did what had to be done. The alternative is to turn into another California, the model for the failure of American liberalism. Even I didn’t expect anything this big. I’m celebrating tonight. Hope you all are having a good night too!

Um … congrats? As an aside, California is most certainly not a model for anything aside from piss poor management and political gridlock on budgets.

rofl.

Trust Malathor to cheer for a bought-and-paid-for corporate Republican election. What a blind, partisan fool.

I told a co-worker today that it was a no-brainer who was going to win when one side can outspend the other by 7-8x. The best, most corrupt govt money can buy. Gilded Age 2.0 takes another step closer to reality.

I think the unions spent some money as well in this election. It’s a little misleading to ignore the resources the unions put into this.

Right. The facts and the issues had nothing to do with this, it was all money. Please, please keep telling yourselves that, right through this November. All you have to do is raise enough money, that’s all. Never ever question that, please.

Maybe you should head back over to the Free Republic? Jesus, dude.

Back on planet earth, Walker’s margin is down to 9, I guess the 16% was just a early returns thing.

Exit polls. Really interesting that the split on the collective bargaining was only 51%-48% Walker, yet Walker won by a significant percentage more.

Not particularly. Total spending was ~$63 million, union spending was something like 2-3 million. For comparision Koch personally shelled out 1 million.

When Citizens United came down, it didn’t just nullify Wisconsin’s 1905 ban on corporate campaign cash, it also plunged much of the state’s campaign finance reporting into darkness.

“Because corporate and labor expenditures were previously illegal, there were no disclosure laws to regulate their spending,” said McCabe. “There’s been a precipitous drop off in transparency.”

Since Citizens United, Wisconsin’s Government Accountability Board requires independent expenditure groups to register as so-called “1.91 groups,” named for the state rule that created them. Of the more than $63 million spent in the race, $22 million has come from these groups — $16.3 million of it from Walker supporters — according to the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign.

Similar to federal super PACs, 1.91 groups can raise and spend unlimited corporate or union dollars and urge voters to support or oppose a candidate. Also, like federal super PACs, they must report their donors — except when they can avoid it.

The Republican Governors Association has spent roughly $4 million on campaign ads through its Right Direction Wisconsin PAC since April 23. But because the RGA’s PAC is based out-of-state, it only has to disclose to state regulators its donations coming from inside Wisconsin, a glaring loophole.

Of its most recent $4 million outlay, the RGA raised only a little over $7,000 from inside the state.

In general the Democrats and Republicans overall stay about at parity on fundraising, but in this specific case it looks like the Democrats got buried.

What is misleading about his post? The facts are that Walker raised about 30 million (70% of which came from out of state), while his opponent raised about 4.

What’s saddening to me is that someone as obviously in the pocket of corporate interests (a la his convo with a fake Koch brother) can stay in office in today’s political climate. That level of collusion between public trust and special interest influence would’ve ended most political careers a few decades ago. In today’s era of low-information voters in which too many citizens couldn’t accurately describe which party’s policies are actively working against their own economic interests, it’s not even a blip on the radar.

Let’s not forget the quirk in Wisconsin’s recall rules which say the challenger is still constrained to $10,000 maximum per donor, while the incumbent is free to collect however much is available from any number of donors. Hence, as Jason points out above, Koch was able to donate $1 million personally, whereas if George Soros had decided to contribute to the challenger, he’d be capped at $10K.

BUT… I’m not sure money was the only answer here. From what I’ve read, the people of Wisconsin were burned out on the recall after 16 months of trench warfare. I can understand the impulse to move on and get on to other business.

I do think this is a bad sign for public sector unions nationwide. They put a lot on the line in this recall attempt.

In general the Democrats and Republicans overall stay about at parity on fundraising, but in this specific case it looks like the Democrats got buried.

Wisconsin has an odd rule that lets the incumbent raise unlimited funds in the case of a recall. They definitely put up hurdles.

But the article you mentioned doesn’t talk about the millions the unions spent. It’s still lopsided for walker but I think it would be foolhardy for someone to dismiss the results as a “bought” election.

I don’t think some people realize how much pent up animosity there is for the public sector unions.

A solid win by Walker. Kudos.

Due to the activities of 527s and other outside groups there is no telling of who outspent who or by how much, no matter how much the stranger (quoting the stranger … bwhahah) or any other liberal group protests. The end result is that the recall failed, badly.

Who-the-fuck made you thread cop? Seriously.

Which is why Walker raised metric fucktons of money from his out-of-state buddies, because money clearly doesn’t matter, amirite?

You’re a fucking useless tool. You’re not even a good troll; you’re just a whiny, pathetic waste of oxygen. If you die, the world will be a better place; probably measurably so, because you’re probably abusive to every single person you pretend to care about.

And you know what’s the best part? I can just put you on ignore, and after Tom bans me, be content that I will never see the fetid feces that masquerade as your posts.

I haven’t heard anyone disputing the disparity in spending here. Whether or not it was the sole deciding factor is another matter.

Who-the-fuck made you thread cop? Seriously.

You’re behaving badly. Maybe there’s a place better suited for it?

An animosity that’s been fanned and flamed by Republicans for decades now. As Mike Lofgren so succinctly puts it:

I left because I was appalled at the headlong rush of Republicans, like Gadarene swine, to embrace policies that are deeply damaging to this country’s future; and contemptuous of the feckless, craven incompetence of Democrats in their half-hearted attempts to stop them. And, in truth, I left as an act of rational self-interest. Having gutted private-sector pensions and health benefits as a result of their embrace of outsourcing, union busting and “shareholder value,” the GOP now thinks it is only fair that public-sector workers give up their pensions and benefits, too. Hence the intensification of the GOP’s decades-long campaign of scorn against government workers. Under the circumstances, it is simply safer to be a current retiree rather than a prospective one.

If you think Paul Ryan and his Ayn Rand-worshipping colleagues aren’t after your Social Security and Medicare, I am here to disabuse you of your naiveté.[5] They will move heaven and earth to force through tax cuts that will so starve the government of revenue that they will be “forced” to make “hard choices” - and that doesn’t mean repealing those very same tax cuts, it means cutting the benefits for which you worked.

And such rhetoric is certainly more effective during economic downturns. I mean, we need to balance the budget ASAP (though this was apparently of little concern last decade). Increasing revenue streams certainly isn’t an option, Grover won’t allow that.

… You’re quote makes it sound like a bad thing? The sooner SS and Medicare are forced into crisis and have to be sorted out, the better.

Weird how different the exit polls were from the outcome.

Alert! Massive liberal reading comprehension failure! There was a difference between the amount of money raised by Barrett and Walker. However due to 527s and outside groups the final SPENDING differential, which I’m guessing here, is what you actually care about is unknown.

And that you didn’t see anyone disputing that on the QT3 circle jerk is hardly surprising.

Even more liberal reading failure. Read up thread who Jason was quoting. Zomg!!!

Sheesus. When did QT3 become right-wing trolling ground?