Wisconsin governor goes bonkers

Dan_Theman · 2012-01-18T12:56:13.000Z

True enough. FWIW, I’d hold the stake while you swung the hammer if I was a Wisconsinite.

Midnight_Son · 2012-01-19T13:30:01.000Z

Dear Republican dipshits: You overreached. Numbnuts.

JonRowe · 2012-06-04T15:04:49.000Z

Let’s do this. Polls seem to have the race neck/neck. Vote is tommorrow. Wisconsin Qt3’ers. Vote!

awdougherty · 2012-06-04T15:08:20.000Z

Please make this happen. So many state level republicans ran on one thing and then governed on angel dust batshit crazy. Let them know this isn’t cool, and make the rich Scott backers flush away their millions.

JonRowe · 2012-06-04T15:20:35.000Z

I made my empassioned plea on Facebook earlier today.

Please vote for Barrett, Scotty W has introduced a base and vitriolic type of politics that is just gross. People are polarized and angry. That is not cool.

Malathor · 2012-06-05T07:03:37.000Z

Let no one say that Obama wasn’t willing to stick his neck out on behalf of those public sector unions. He may not have been willing to step foot in the state, but he did tweet his support for Barrett today!

Oh wait, that’s actually kind of lame. You think maybe Obama actually recognizes that having public sector unions bargain their contracts with the very politicians that they help to elect is exactly the kind of corrupt confluence between government and moneyed/special interests that liberals are always railing about? Naaaah.

Miramon · 2012-06-05T07:46:03.000Z

Malathor:

Let no one say that Obama wasn’t willing to stick his neck out on behalf of those public sector unions. He may not have been willing to step foot in the state, but he did tweet his support for Barrett today!

Oh wait, that’s actually kind of lame. You think maybe Obama actually recognizes that having public sector unions bargain their contracts with the very politicians that they help to elect is exactly the kind of corrupt confluence between government and moneyed/special interests that liberals are always railing about? Naaaah.

No, what it is, they think the recall is unlikely to succeed, and they don’t want to appear invested in it, because the GOP is spinning that this will somehow determine the presidential election.

RDansky · 2012-06-05T07:57:04.000Z

So, thisis interesting:

AaronSofaer · 2012-06-05T08:29:52.000Z

Wisconsin voters are reporting receiving robocalls that claim voters who signed recall petitions or voted to recall Governor Scott Walker are not required to vote again tomorrow, June 5th.

How is this not a felony? One that gets investigated and the perpetrators are put on trial as felons?

Brettmcd · 2012-06-05T09:41:31.000Z

I do hope this recall election fails, I have zero use for recall elections where there was not a serious criminal offense by the person being recalled. They had their chance to beat Walker in the real election, they didn’t.

Brettmcd · 2012-06-05T09:42:13.000Z

AaronSofaer:

How is this not a felony? One that gets investigated and the perpetrators are put on trial as felons?

If they find out who is behind that I completely agree they should be brought up on appropriate charges, whatever those may be.

Two_Sheds · 2012-06-05T10:03:47.000Z

Yeah, pack it in guys. Brett has zero use for the system working as intended.

Scuzz · 2012-06-05T10:04:46.000Z

Brettmcd:

I do hope this recall election fails, I have zero use for recall elections where there was not a serious criminal offense by the person being recalled. They had their chance to beat Walker in the real election, they didn’t.

California recalled Gray Davis and ended up with the Arnold. What a lose-lose that was.

Brettmcd · 2012-06-05T10:07:46.000Z

Two Sheds:

Yeah, pack it in guys. Brett has zero use for the system working as intended.

The system is being abused, recalls should not be used because the person being elected does something you dont agree with politically, it should be used to remove someone who has committed a criminal act from office. We have these actual elections that you use to remove someone from office you disagree with politically when their elected term is up.

charmtrap · 2012-06-05T10:11:51.000Z

Brettmcd:

The system is being abused, recalls should not be used because the person being elected does something you dont agree with politically, it should be used to remove someone who has committed a criminal act from office. We have these actual elections that you use to remove someone from office you disagree with politically when their elected term is up.

This is an actual election. Wisconsin provides a legal avenue to recalling a governor. If they didn’t want it to be used, they should have repealed it. Too late now.

I guess I’m not really seeing your objection.

CLWheeljack · 2012-06-05T10:13:47.000Z

Brettmcd:

The system is being abused, recalls should not be used because the person being elected does something you dont agree with politically, it should be used to remove someone who has committed a criminal act from office. We have these actual elections that you use to remove someone from office you disagree with politically when their elected term is up.

Generally, I agree, if you just recall anybody who makes an unpopular decision, your don’t have democracy, you have mob rule. I felt the same way about the Gray Davis recall in California.

But, people more familiar have noted that Walker really misrepresented himself during the campaign, and that his policies since taking office have been very different from the platform he ran on. It seems like there should be some kind of mechanism for preventing that kind of behavior. In theory, the other branches mitigate the effect somebody could have after doing so, but it does seem a little weird that there’s absolutely no recourse. For instance, what if a politician literally goes insane, but doesn’t commit any crime?

Hrnac · 2012-06-05T10:19:01.000Z

Jon Rowe:

I made my empassioned plea on Facebook earlier today.

Please vote for Barrett, Scotty W has introduced a base and vitriolic type of politics that is just gross. People are polarized and angry. That is not cool.

I did my duty and cast my vote for Barrett this morning.

Brettmcd · 2012-06-05T10:22:16.000Z

CLWheeljack:

Generally, I agree, if you just recall anybody who makes an unpopular decision, your don’t have democracy, you have mob rule. I felt the same way about the Gray Davis recall in California.

But, people more familiar have noted that Walker really misrepresented himself during the campaign, and that his policies since taking office have been very different from the platform he ran on. It seems like there should be some kind of mechanism for preventing that kind of behavior. In theory, the other branches mitigate the effect somebody could have after doing so, but it does seem a little weird that there’s absolutely no recourse. For instance, what if a politician literally goes insane, but doesn’t commit any crime?

If we recalled every politician who promised one thing while running for election but did something different when they win we would be recalling most politicians starting with the current president.

Brettmcd · 2012-06-05T10:23:57.000Z

charmtrap:

This is an actual election. Wisconsin provides a legal avenue to recalling a governor. If they didn’t want it to be used, they should have repealed it. Too late now.

I guess I’m not really seeing your objection.

My objection is that a recall should not be used for removing someone from office for political disagreements.

I can’t stand the current gov of MN, I think Dayton is a complete moron who shouldn’t be running a McDonalds let alone an entire state, but I wouldn’t even think of supporting a recall election for him.

Scuzz · 2012-06-05T10:38:36.000Z

I am not a big fan of the recall but if a sitting governor etc. has done something so egregious as to actually get recalled then maybe he should wake up and smell the coffee.