World Cup 2010 (that's interesting)

hong · 2010-07-03T04:16:09.000Z

JM:

And no-one thinks Campese is a filthy cheat - just a great player with a big mouth.

On that occasion, it certainly did look like he was cheating.

This whole “everybody does it” argument. Is it trotted out when it comes to doping, I wonder?

Canuck · 2010-07-03T04:23:46.000Z

Tim Partlett:

The head of the organisation that defines the rules of football says all deliberate handballs are cheating.

One of the biggest cheats in football, who thinks deliberately breaking a player’s leg is perfectly acceptable behaviour, thinks it’s not cheating.

There’s no contest. Suarez is a cheat by definition.

So Tim’s argument is that if you break the rules then you’re cheating? So by that definition, every hockey player who has ever gotten a penalty (rules violation) is also a cheater? If you go to the penalty box for hooking someone else you’re a cheater? I’ve heard guys who go to the penalty box a lot called a lot of things but I’ve never heard them called cheaters.

JM1 · 2010-07-03T04:31:07.000Z

hong:

On that occasion, it certainly did look like he was cheating.

This whole “everybody does it” argument. Is it trotted out when it comes to doping, I wonder?

Doping, blood capsules, bribery - all these things are “outside of the game”. It’s an entirely different event that doesn’t occur within the framework of the match. They are attempts to hoodwink the authorities, to circumvent the laws of the game rather than commit a foul as defined by the lawbook.

Dave_Perkins · 2010-07-03T05:21:11.000Z

For what it’s worth, I’m with Tim, robsam, JM, Gary Whitta, hong, Mysterio, and Suarez.

Gorath · 2010-07-03T06:16:16.000Z

robsam:

Germany plays a more beautiful game than Brazil now.

5 years ago everybody would have questioned your football know-how. Now you’re right. ;)

Germany is the clear underdog today. Our team had no chance in the test game a couple of months ago. I’m looking forward to an exciting game though. ARG - GER always means a lot of tension on and off the pitch. Both teams will come out with the knife between their teeth.

I hope GER advances. Then it’s payback time for ESP, and NL will finally get a chance to renew the decades old football friendship between our countries. g

Volksy · 2010-07-03T06:24:35.000Z

Ignatius P. Reilly:

I don’t see how everybody is getting worked up against Uruguay for what happened at the end of the game. The last free kick was set up by a blatant dive by Ghana. I’ve watched it numerous times on the DVR and it’s one of the most blatant dives you will ever see… nobody within a yard of him, as soon as the ball goes over his head, he goes down arms flailing. The way it played out is simply karmic justice for how they got the ball in front of the goal in the first place. You have to have a pretty one-sided sense of ethics to see the whole affair simply as Uruguay being a dirty team.

How is everyone that’s arguing that Suarez is an “evil cheat” ignoring this?

The Ghana player cheated (if we’re going to use that definition for what Suarez did), and instead of getting penalized for it, got rewarded with a free kick just outside the box with mere seconds remaining in the game. This was a conscious decision to flop, wheras Suarez may have been going on instinct in the heat of the moment without time to really consider the implications.

Ghana cheats, gets rewarded. Uruguay cheats, gets properly penalized. That Ghana didn’t take advantage of the situation is hardly Uruguay’s or Suarez’s fault.

JM1 · 2010-07-03T06:44:32.000Z

Plus Pantsil deliberately fouled a Uruguayan in the box to stop a goalscoring opportunity, but wasn’t spotted.

This, my friends, is football.

Woolen_Horde · 2010-07-03T07:04:35.000Z

Damn, Germany. Damn. Don’t waste any time there.

rowe33 · 2010-07-03T07:07:30.000Z

They sure look to be in control right now. 5 min in and no diving by either side, though Germany had the chance to try and sell a couple of fouls. That’s great to see!

robsam · 2010-07-03T07:07:50.000Z

ahahahahaha!!!

whistling happily

Jonathan_Crane · 2010-07-03T07:08:18.000Z

That German goal was great, especially as the kick was set up by what looked like a fairly cynical Argentine tackle. The Germans look completely fearless, and I’m not sure the Argentine flair for simulation will save them.

Woolen_Horde · 2010-07-03T07:10:07.000Z

The Germans are just slicing through Argentina’s defense. Podolski is just owning his defender.

robsam · 2010-07-03T07:19:11.000Z

Woolen Horde:

The Germans are just slicing through Argentina’s defense. Podolski is just owning his defender.

Who could have predicted such a thing?? Oh, wait.

They should try to play Flight of the Valkries on the vuvuzelas when Germany is attacking, that would be awesome.

Brandon_Clements · 2010-07-03T07:24:36.000Z

Klose should have had that.

robsam · 2010-07-03T07:24:46.000Z

AGGGHHHH!! Klose, you have to make that!

Jonathan_Crane · 2010-07-03T07:30:39.000Z

Was that a triple lutz by one of the Argentine players?

robsam · 2010-07-03T07:32:45.000Z

Triple toe loop. Duh. Argentina is looking more composed now.

Juan_Rayo · 2010-07-03T07:36:11.000Z

Harsh card on Mueller.

Edit: phewww, offside.

Skipper · 2010-07-03T07:38:09.000Z

I overslept. :( Who scored the goal?

Juan_Rayo · 2010-07-03T07:43:32.000Z

Skipper:

I overslept. :( Who scored the goal?

Mueller.

Argentina is looking way better atm.