Switch to HE when playing your tank in a higher tier match.
The reason you are making money with your arty is because it shoots HE only and thus doesn’t need to penetrate (or even hit the target directly) to make some damage, which means making damage.
The same advice applies to Brett or anyone else facing tanks they can’t penetrate.
[edit] To elaborate a little. Don’t expect to take out the KV on your T-46 with HE rounds one on one. But. Hang around your heavies and TD’s, make sure you are not the priority target and plink your HE rounds into that KV. You will do some damage but most importantly about every other hit will be critical, meaning you will be killing enemy’s crew and modules thus making him less effective. A KV with killed gunner/loader/gun/engine/tracks/turret is a sad sad KV. I bet your T-46 can kill a KV with a damaged turret one on one, providing he has no help and you have room to drive around and enough HE rounds. Although from behind, you can probably penetrate him with anything.
If you’re outmatched try to tailor whatever strategy you’re using to avoid getting 1-shotted in a way that’s trivial for the team. Even if you’re in a “scouting for the arty” role, try to find someplace where you can retreat to or observe from, as opposed to just racing forward and exploding without doing any good at all. Alternatively you can hang around a little bit back of the front line and try to sneak forward after the main engagement has started to suck in both sides’ forces, but be aware of where enemy TDs might be waiting.
Ive got enough money to put the 76mm gun on my t-46 but I dont know enough about the game yet to know if thats a good idea or not as it shoots so slowly.
Dave47
2804
Huh, good to know. I guess I’ll have to buy some artillery.
A quick question that isn’t answered by the wiki: If I swap a crew from (say) one medium tank into another, I know they will take a skill hit in the new tank. But do they still retain their training level in their old tank? Or can a crew only be proficient in one vehicle at a time?
Argh- got into my brand spanking new IS- and magically I lose every round, and die to anything. Also I hate T20’s, that American medium tank.
Anywho- ill see if I do any better once I get the improved gun on it.
I got one-shot by another T-28 in my T-28. That doesn’t seem right. I guess it was a lucky hit on my ammo rack.
One vehicle at a time.
And you don’t need arty for “credit grinding”. I hate arty and I hate grinding, so I never did that and I was fine with credits until tier 7, i.e. I could buy a new tank the moment I unlocked it. But then again, I am not spread over multiple “lines”, I level only soviet HT’s and TD’s.
Just start using HE rounds on high tier targets.
Yeah, either ammo rack or someone sneaked in another shot a split second before the one from that T-28.
Bah, I should have used multi-quote :)
Yes, the stock gun on IS REALLY sucks, especially if you are coming from the KV-3 because by then you would have used the 107mm gun on two tanks and the IS’s 85mm sucks compared to that.
The good news is that the improved guns do change everything around and the IS becomes a really good tank, one of my favorite tanks in fact.
Driving my Tiger with the long 88, I blew up a 100% health SU-100 in one match and a 100% VK3601 in the next. That was quite unexpected, as I dont think I’ve one shot anything so large before in over 200 battles with the tiger.
naw the t28 gets a really really awesome 85mm gun that is better than the ones you get on kv. it does represent a rather big dead end xp investment, but boy is it fun.
Dejin
2812
Yeah the top level T-28 gun is absolutely vicious for its tier. Huge damage with regular AP, good penetration. The damage levels are high enough to regularly one shot many tier III tanks. Given the variability in damage done, I’m not surprised it one-shotted a tier IV. The one downside is that the aiming time is just awful. At 3 seconds I think it’s the longest I’ve played with. You feel like you are sitting there forever out stopped and vulnerable before you can finally take the shot. Accuracy is okay, but not great.
My first game I played with the new T-28 gun I got 9 kills, which is far and away my best performance with any tank. Many of them were either 1 or 2 shots (it was a low tier game).
Also, Hanacker, as you were yourself driving a T-28, keep in mind that a T-28 is not a very good tank from a defensive standpoint. It’s a fast and dangerous opponent when upgraded, but it really can’t take much damage and most things penetrate it easily.
mk56
2813
I’m really enjoying playing my VK 3601 (one of the tier 6 medium german tanks). It has a very solid 88 for a gun, but the best part is how tough it is. I commonly will deflect shots from tier 5 heavies, and sometimes even tier 6s.
In my last battle I got caught out in the open middle part of Himmelsdorf, got tracked with a KV and a Churchill both firing at me. Now, I know the Churchill has a small gun, and the KV must not have had the upgraded gun, but they really wailed away on me for a long time as I kept getting tracked. I deflected some shots, and the hits didn’t really damage me too much. I killed them both and survived the battle with 34 hits received, almost all from those 2 tanks.
I agree with what you say except for the KV comment. The ZiS-6 107 mm on the KV is one of the absolute best guns in the entire game. For it’s tier, I don’t think any other gun is so dominant. It’s very accurate, fast firing, and can one shot most anything of lower tiers and routinely damages higher tiers without using HE.
SU-85B one ups that T-28 gun. It’s essentially the same gun but with 10 more penetration, same damage, higher accuracy and faster rate of fire.
Don’t forget that SU-85 gets the same 107mm gun (which IIRC is more accurate) also at tier 5.
It helps a great deal if one does the Russian heavy and medium lines at the same time. There’s some useful synergy between the two. Unlock the 57mm gun on the T-28, use it on the T-34 as well. Unlock the 100mm gun on the T-34/85, use it on the IS instead of the stock 85mm. There’s also some engine sharing between the lines.
I waited to unlock my IS until after getting the 100mm gun on the T-34/85 and it made those early games in the IS so much better.
i meant the 85mm guns on the kv. i absolutely agree on the kv-2 guns, which both freakin pwn. (and look very silly to boot!)
ShivaX
2817
I did, but taking 1% off a T1/KV wasn’t exactly amazing. Gotta remember early in the German line you never get a big gun. 50mm HE hits like a nerf bat. I’d do maybe 3-4% against a heavy with a good shot, often nothing at all to em.
Are you Premium?
Cause the jump to a T4 tank is pretty huge for the money you make at T3.
Now that I have a T4 its a lot less of an issue, the P3 makes pretty good cash most of the time and I barely use my M37 anymore.
Its been a while, but in general with the Soviet early tanks strap the biggest gun you can on them cause odds are you wont live past the first shot anyway.
Hetzer
2818
Hmmm i would use the 152mm Howitze in the kv before the 107 one… I need only one shot for most tanks… sure its slow like hell and you shouldnt get in close combat with more than one tank without support… but boy a hit with this baby feels like a sledgehammer… Of course i ONLY use he for this gun even if i still have two shots of ap with me…
Aim carefully, stay in medium range and BAM the target is gone… get out of dodge and move in cover to wait for the reload… repeat (i couldnt count the times when a superheavy tank lumberd around my corner expecting to survive a hit from me, only to look deeply in the big hole of my 152er, as i have to aim a little bit even in closer range he has time for the long used words… Dear god let us be thankfull…
Yeah I love the super HE gun on the KV too. Naturally i’ll switch the top gun eventually, but it’s a 14k xp unlock so i’m enjoying the HE cannon for what it is. Love being in urban maps with it (shorter range, corners to hide behind)
Patch 6.4 has been released on the Russian server and the updated patch notes have been posted on the US forum. That’s a lot of changes. And most of them are good. :)
No idea when it lands on the US server, the devs said “May”.
