You’re the cat who tried to tell me that mage DPS sucked in 4.0, so you’ll forgive me if I take your objection with a rather large grain of salt.
You are apparently playing World of Bizarro Warcraft, the one with rugged masculine elves, plate armor that mysteriously becomes skimpy on male characters, and the cigar-chewing drill sergeant Jaina “Nails” Proudmoore.
Yeah, I didn’t know if there was some kind of modifier in play, but a level 59 mob in EPL didn’t give as much XP as a level 59 mob in BC. Given that, I’m a bit puzzled about why Blizzard wants to institute this new XP modifier. There’s always been incentive to get to the expansion zones because the XP there is better. The only reason why I even spent a few days in EPL with my level 60 rogue after BC came out was because I was gathering crafting materials. (I had already leveled a hunter and warlock to 70 so the BC zones weren’t new to me anymore.)
Maybe it is an anti-ganking measure, but that penalizes players on PvE servers.
Maybe it’s anti-farming? The gold farmers who are running around in lower level zones to get crafting materials will now level slower?
It’s kind of weird and I don’t see why I need this extra push to move on to each expansion zone.
ARogan
3403
Wow Cataclysm Collector’s Edition:
From amazon via Fedex
Dec 7, 2010 1:41 PM
Delivered
Left at front door.
Still stuck at work :(
I don’t get that; I was barely into Storm Peaks when I hit 80 on my main, and that was without doing any questing in Sholozar Basin or Grizzly Hills. None. At all. I just figured, hey, more to do on an alt (if I ever get one to 80). But I hit 80 way, way before Icecrown.
Had fun up until the game stopping Worgen bug (Battle of …whatever - seems to be across most/all realms?). Was disappointed a bit with the Worgen at first but the goofy running finally grew on me. Too bad I can’t go any further until something fixes this. Glad I didn’t get up at 2am for it.
EDIT: that came out harsher than I wanted. Like the Worg levels well enough that having a bug stop me was disappointing. Was mostly wondering if anyone here had found a way past it as I haven’t found any solutions elsewhere.
I’m not sure what’s so confusing about this: It’s to keep people from leveling just by killing multiple low-level mobs to get easy experience. If you still want to spend time questing in Northrend at 80, great! The change won’t affect you that much, since most of the experience is gained through questing, not through killing mobs. But if you want to grab your uber-powerful Cata gear and go back to kill a bunch of Northrend mobs, then that won’t really help your XP.
What’s confusing is the reason behind it? Why should Blizzard care? And why couldn’t they just do what they did when BC came out, which is to make BC mobs generate XP for players at a greater rate? That provided ample incentive to leave the old zones and head to BC. Seriously, anyone who wanted to level got to BC as quickly as possible rather than hang around in the old areas. It was like that with Lich King too.
This is precisely what I’m struggling with. What is so game-breaking about killing bad guys in “old” content? Killing things in the Plaguelands is just peachy at level 59, but you ding 60 and your XP drops by ninety percent? It’s punishment. Why?
There was never a time where getting to the level cap required doing every available zone. That’s a very good thing for anyone wanting to play more than one character. If you’ve ever tried an MMO that gave you pretty much the same play experience from 1 to cap every time due to a lack of content, you’d appreciate just how many choices you get in WoW.
IGJoe
3410
Now I am wishing mine was sent Fedex. I’m not even sure if my package will be there when I go around 7:30pm to pick it up at my local UPS facility, which closes at 8:00pm.
Does anyone with experience with UPS know if you can pick your failed delivery up the same day as the failed delivery if you go that night after the trucks have come in? Do you need to notify them and go the next day?
Not 100% on this, but I think you have to call and tell them to hold it for you, otherwise they’ll try to deliver it again. (I know this is how you do it if you miss, or are going to miss delivery, and want it right away.) You might not be able to get it until tomorrow.
They care because they don’t want people to gear up in the new Cataclysm gear, then roll back to Northrend and steamroll everything to gain the cheap and easy XP. As to why they didn’t use the BC solution of making those mobs generate more XP, my answer is twofold: 1) if the BC solution is essentially the same thing (multiplying later XP vs. reducing earlier XP), then why does it matter which one they do?; and 2) it’s much easier to scale if you reduce the old XP with each expansion, instead of increasing the XP for each new expansion. If you stick with the BC model, you’ll eventually get mobs that provide 1.5 million XP when killed, but it takes 4.8 quintillion XP to get from level 93 to 94.
Since most of the XP comes from quests, I’m not sure what the problem is. You’ll get 90% less for the 10 foozles you kill, but you’ll get the full hit of XP from the quest. It probably stopped people from chain-running heroics to level.
I’m with you, I don’t really get it, but I’m not sure how many new players do every quest all the way up anyway. Maybe this will change whenever they get around to bringing BC and Wrath in-line with the current timeline.
What, you just want the Burning Legion to break through the Dark Portal, while you while away the hours killing Greater Felhounds? Do you want Illidan to take over??
Seriously, what’s the big deal? So instead of wandering around killing things in EPL, you can wander around and kill things in Hellfire Peninsula. I seriously don’t see the problem here. Your XP is already reduced every time you ding anyway; this is just another aspect of that. Think of it as the WoW equivalent of your parents kicking you out of the basement.
I’m sorry, let me put it another way: Think of it as the WoW equivalent of how you’ll react when your parents eventually do kick you out of the basement.
“Sitting around playing WoW is just peachy at 17, but suddenly I ding 18 and now I have to go get a job??”
Athryn
3415
It’s a LibBroker panel, which means all the other LibBroker mods natively plugin to it.
Amazon.uk still hasn’t shipped my CE , lulz >.>
Not that i’d be playing it right now but still :s
With the drop in required XP for vanilla, BC, and now Northrend stuff, you hit the cap before you even get halfway through the later stuff. I mean, shit, with Heirlooms I hit 70 while still in Zangarmarsh. Zangarmarsh! Now, if I hit 70 and want to do Netherstorm (which I like) or something instead of Borean Tundra (which I hate), I get a big fuck-you for it.
Believe me when I say I’m not dying to play more Northrend. It’s just that a 90% reduction seems pretty severe and essentially forces you to advance to the next expansion’s stuff. This change not only obviates a bunch of vanilla, BC, and Northrend content, but actively punishes you for playing it.
So why bother with Zangarmarsh in the first place? If you want to do Netherstorm, why not just go there at level 65? Or if you want to do it at 70, you’ll still get the normal quest XP, which is most of your leveling experience anyway. And again, why are you doing Borean Tundra if you hate it? Just skip to the next zone.
Not if you’re questing, as that XP gain is still the same. If you still want to experience the story, you get a slight XP hit; if you want to just run around killing mobs, then yeah, there is less of an incentive.
You may want to look up the definition of “punishment”; “rewarding you less” is not the same as punishing you.
Queues! Estimated time to log onto my Shaman’s server: 60 minutes. Position in queue: 930.
Yeah, I thought about this after I posted. Part of the issue is that I like to complete a good portion of a zone if I start it. So if I want to truck along in Nagrand, the next thing I know I’ll be outlevelling a different zone that I would have liked to do.
Maybe I’m a glass-half-empty kind of guy, but I’m looking at this as a 90% penalty, not a 10% bonus.
