5261

Yeah, if you’re even moderately geared, and nobody bothers to CC those first few pulls, it’s going to be very difficult to heal. Especially if DPS are idiots and nobody purges the buff off the big guy

5262

So, I hit 81 and now the Dungeon Finder won’t show Northrend dungeons. I just went to the first Cataclysm zone to bump my armour rating high enough for Northrend Heroics. I stone back to Dal and only have Cata dungeons in the list.

Is this working as intended?

edit: Oh, and now I see I don’t meet the requirements for the only dungeons in the finder. What the fuckityfuck?

/rant on
That is fucking bullshit. I love Northrend; I’m not done with dailies and dungeons there yet, plus, I’m a fucking healer! All I do are dungeons and dailies, and now the game is forcing me to <cough> quest like a pleb? Added to which I lived through the Trials of Atlantis expansion for Dark Age of Camelot. I loathe, I hate, I despise with the heat of a nova fighting in underwater zones.
/rant off

5263

Heh, I’m a Mage so I’m always keeping an eye out for that buff :) Spellsteal makes offensive dispelling so much more fun!

I ran a DF group in there (reg Halls) yesterday on normal mode with a Disc Priest and it was an interesting run. One of the other DPS was a Ret Pally in greens who did 3.5-4.5k through most of the instance, and the other DPS did 6-8k. The tank was very switched on, and the Disc Priest was able to contribute a steady 2.5k DPS throughout, and I did 10-13k. We steamrolled through, pretty much.

So the moral is that probably any reasonably decent group where no one does anything stupid should be able to get through a normal. I’m enclined to think maybe there should be a difficulty between reg and heroic. Regs are becoming a real cakewalk for me now, but heroics are often stressful more than fun.

5264

So quit yer bitchin’ and do Hyjal instead.

5265

How do I get there? How would I know to go there if not directed by random rudeness on a message board?

5266

Well, thanks for ignorning the context of my post, but setting rudeness aside, how do I get to Hyjal? And, more importantly, by what game mechanism would I know to go there? No NPC I’ve yet met has said anything about another route into the Cataclysm content.

5267

There is a quest where you talk to a shaman in one of the major cities that sends you there. The Hero’s Call board might or might not give you a quest for that area, I don’t remember, but I do know that you can pick up the trail to Hyjal (and get ported there) pretty much the moment Cata areas become relevant.

5268

For every zone, there is a quest chain you must do first that starts at a job board in a major city. I’m not sure how you would find your way to Vash, while not seeing the route to Hyjal. ;) Definitely do Hyjal if you don’t like Vash. Vash is really beautiful, but the weirdest Cataclysm zone by far.

5269

Because Vash has a pop-up quest which sends you to the earthmender who then directs you to Vash. Hyjal is only from the job board. (At least on alliance side…)

It’s a bizarre oversight that they made, but it’s also something that’s not that big of a deal.

I’m amazed that anyone went from 80->81 in Northrend, though, with the 90% experience reduction. Or does that not kick in until level 81?

5270

I went to the job board in Dal when a yellow tag popped up at 80. The only option was a quest chain that directed me to Org and then to Vash. I saw no other option, but will look again now that the portal to Vash has opened up at the original quest giver.

I know this is an dirty word in WoW but I am a roleplayer; I really don’t care about xp; I don’t even have the xp metre up on my UI. I kept progressing in Northrend because my character has unfinished business there. All I was really doing were dailies and dungeons. And now I can’t do dungeons there any longer (via the dungeon finder) which sucks.

I sent Blizz an email this morning asking them to reset me to level 80 so I can stay where I am; maybe they’ll do something miraculous.

5271

You’re welcome to play however you want. It’s just odd to complain about how they lock you out of trivial content when you keep doing trivial dailies and apparently repeatedly do the dungeons all in the name of “roleplaying”. What motivation did you find in an RP framework for repeatedly getting teleported to random dungeons tons of times to kill the same bosses who were magically alive over and over again? It’s really hard to imagine earning roughly 12 million exp (1.2 million-ish for level 80-81 * 10%) without repeatedly doing crap over and over and over, which seems to conflict with the idea of roleplaying having put you in that position.

I fully support the idea that they should have an /XPOFF flag, though… I have a baby hunter I’m playing with my wife, and I want to keep our experience very close, but I’d really love to be able to, in my free time, wander off and tame some new pets and level them up. So more power to you there. You’re probably a far outlier in terms of what you want out of the game, though.

5272

You can turn XP off, you just need to visit an NPC to do it.

5273

There is an /XPOFF flag. If they do set you back to 80, talk to Behsten in Stormwind Keep, or Slahtz in the Valley of Honor in Orgrimmar. For 10 gold, they can turn off all experience gains (from any source) so that you stay the same level you are.

One caveat: with XP turned off, you’re considered a “twink” character and will be matched only with other XP-turned-off players in Battlegrounds and other PvP events. This only matters if you PvP, of course.

[Edit: Too slow!]

5274

Ahhh, marvellous! Thanks muchly, Mr Ned.

These worlds are filled with malevolent beings who repeatedly summon avatars to fight for them. Ymiron is not the end of the line, friend ;) And the forces aligned against the darkness need to be trained, they need to learn how to properly defend themselves, and they need guidance in the preservation of their moral centre and their sanity. Pelinor’s blessings upon their holy work.

Of that I am aware. Still, in the 6+ years we’ve been playing my wife and I have found pockets of solid, mature roleplaying guilds on all the RP servers we’ve tried. We’re out there, but our profile is low. You have to seek us out because we don’t rise to the inevitable taunting of our play-style that, bizarrely, happens on servers expressly set aside for us. What would be the point?

5275

I agree with metta, but for different reasons.

Doing the Northrend dungeons prior to 83 was a nice way to mix things up, since there are far more Northrend dungeons and far fewer Cataclysm dungeons -the Cataclysm dungeons get boring. Plus, you still got some JPs for running Northrend Heroics, which is I suspect the real reason they took them away.

I mean, you can do BC dungeons still up until around level 75, so that seems like the only thing that makes sense.

I know, I could probably try to do it the old fashioned way and get a group together and go there, but without any other global LFG method, that seems pretty unlikely.

5276

I mis-read this as Pelor for a second. I’ve been playing some D&D, apparently…

5277

Don’t be so sensitive - it wasn’t rudeness, just a catchphrase. I was pointing out that the game does give you an alternative. I hated Vashj’ir myself.

The rest of your post is something I cannot respond to, as I don’t truly understand why someone would want to stay in Northrend when they can move on to the vastly improved experience of the Cata zones. Especially when you want to do dailies, of all things! Out of interest, if you wanted to stay 80, why did you buy Cata? :)

5278

I feel your pain.

I heal cata’s dungeons as a priest and get headaches like you get.

Difference seems to be my battlegroup or whatever has a shortage of healers and dps have 60+ minute queues. I have yet to be vote kicked.
Plus I’m a really good healer, dps 6 years and find that healing is my thing :p

The biggest issue is tanks really. Most seem to think they are still in Northrend instances. Run in and do the tank thing and it’ll be easy.

HoO stuff is similar to you.
I ask for CC to be used and the tank scoffs, calls me a noob and runs off like a tard. Gets mad when he gets no heals and dies. I make them run back when they’re stupid. Rogue and a mage ask for CC targets. I start marking targets. Hunter pulls and tank is happy because we’re taking too long to get set up. I port out of dungeon (mage does also, rogue just vanishes) and the idiots die.
Tank tries to vote kick, hunter is all for me being booted. Mage and rogue say it’s not me and it’s them. Vote fails :p
Tank verbally abuses us and leaves. Hunter is mad but he doesn’t want an hour queue.
New tank. Everyone CCs, tank asks for it, whole thing goes smooth.

I really hate the DF at times, mostly weekends.

5279

I disagree that the Cata zones are “vastly improved,” some of them are cool, but they’re a step in the wrong direction, because they’re a complete on-the-rails experience.

Which is cool the first time, but when you’re on the 4th or 5th alt, it starts to get boring.

5280

In my opinion Northrend’s ice / snow zones were better than anything to be found in Cata.
The desolate theme of a land frozen and suffering under the Lich King and the Scourge was / is so impressive.
The added Viking / Norse lore (valkyrs etc.) enforced this setting / idea.

Cata is a joke compared to this.
I would like to see a single player RPG in Northrend’s setting which I would buy day 1.