Also cooldowns. I’m an Alchemist and though I have yet to stumble across enough volatile everything-but-life to graft together any Truegold, the fact that it shares a cooldown with one of its component materials AND requires a sick amount of volatile crap for a single bar, and I can only make one a day, and I can’t make one of the base components on the same day as I make the actual thing…let’s just say that if I ever DO make one and crunch the numbers, it better come up as a significant profit. I also briefly flirted with the notion of having a Tailor make me something out of Dreamcloth (give him the mats, he burns them, final piece is BoE) - the supply of those are gated by the fact that you have to gather fifty damn volatiles or an orb to make a single fragment, and only if you get fifty of everything AND an orb can you throw together one of the more costly BoE pieces in a day. I imagine that those are worth a bit more than their raw material price.

Yeah you’re right the cooldowns add value as well. Forgot about those (I don’t have any classes with CDs on crafting).

You’re an alchemist and you’re not transmuting those life to anything more useful?

I’m an Elixir Master. I transmute those Life into money juice. Probably not the most profitable way to play things just now.

I make at least 1000g a day with my maxed scribe. It was a pain in the ass to get there, but it’s funded everything I need in-game.

So you have to tell me how you do this. I’m at 525 inscription too, but I don’t know how to tell which glyphs are in demand and which ones aren’t. Quite frankly I find Auctioneer’s UI very hard to understand.

What precisely are you selling to earn this profit? Glyphs (can’t seem to get any to sell for the last week)? Off-hand trinkets? Darkmoon decks (so expensive to create)? Help me out here!

Yes, Yes! I’d like to know as well! I recently started an inscriptionist and have noticed that on my server (Whisperwind), one of the earliest glyphs I learned, Glyph of Blessing of Might, is routinely listed at 150-250 gold. I even managed to sell one or two at 150 or so gold. Now, I’m almost certain that it takes less than a stack of Mageroyal, which might go for 20-30 gold a stack, to craft this glyph. So obviously, this is a tidy profit. But it’s unreliable and I’ve found the market to fluctuate fairly wildly as everyone tries to undercut everyone else.

I go to Elitist Jerks to take a look at what are considered best in slot glyphs for the various classes and go from there. But is there something else I should be considering?

Are you selling Glyph Mastery Book glyphs? My observation is that the market for all trainable glyphs has mostly flatlined.

Yeah I have a bunch of high demand glyphs up now, ranging from 50-250G. I have literally sold one this week. A bit frustrating, but I feel like there is a way to make money here. Another part of my frustrating is how annoying it is to farm herbs in the old world. I find the spacing of the herbs in the zones somewhat inconvenient, but then again I am not a maxed scribe yet!

Takes some time to setup but once that’s done the addon takes care of figuring out what’s good to make for you.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/packs/13367/default.aspx

I should add this addon works for all professions. I currently use it for inscription, enchanting, jewelcrafting and alchemy.

As a 525 tailor, I can tell you that they are not. For example, Belt of the Depths (I think, I forget the specific name but it is a 359 purple belt) takes 160 Embersilk cloth and 120 volatiles to make (in order to make the 4 Dreamcloth that are the ingredients for the belt). I checked a couple of days ago, and the belt was selling for just under 3000g on the server.

Given that volatiles themselves generally sell in the 15-20g a piece range, embersilk cloth is 2g or more, and the cooldown on creating the dream cloth in the first place is 7 days, that’s little to no profit for the highest end tailoring you can do.

Incidentally, the one Dreamcloth recipe that does not have a 7 day cooldown is chaos orbs, but it’s not one chaos orb per dreamcloth, it’s five (plus the 40 Embersilk).

Yeah, but as a tailor how are you not totally swimming in Embersilk? I pick up 5 stacks on a single run through Deadmines or SFK.

I’m finding selling the dreamcloth recipes (most the belt) very profitable. I can buy all the volatiles except air for around 10-15g each (and you can get water and fire easily at no cost), which means my cost for each dreamcloth is about 400-500g. I sell the belt for 4k, making a profit of 2k each week. This on top of selling the BOE valor point boots for 15k every two weeks is netting me some decent money.

Valor point boots on Mal’Ganis are down to 8k, you are making me sad at seeing you sell it for 15 :(

Yeah, and thankfully, because damnit, the only boots better than them drop from Sinestra, and Shining Force isn’t going to be downing -

Hey, waitaiminute. Mal’Ganis? We’re server buddies! bro-hug

Know any good hunters on Mal’Ganis that want to join a 10m raiding group? Ours just quit because work > him. Apparently he wants to earn money or something.

Tue/Wed/Thu 7pm to 10pm Pacific!

Hm, you could talk to Drasuka? He’s still listed as being in Social Terrorism, but ST imploded on Monday night. He’s very patient and highly competent, but I can’t guarantee he’s interested in a 10man raiding group; he’s probably looking to move into a different 25man guild.

Short answer: brute force. My scribe knows every glyph in the game, and I have an excel spreadsheet with every glyph listed. I track sales, and survey the AH about once a week to see what is in my “make” range. The web interface makes this pretty easy to get through in about 30 min.

As a rule, leveling glyphs are flooding the market and are worthless to make. You’ll flag them as no-gos on the spreadsheet soon enough. As noted upthread, the good money is in discovered glyphs, so do minor & northrend research every cooldown. Books of Glyph Mastery are a bitch to get now, but you really need these to be competitive.

Then there’s ink, which has been totally screwed up due to the ink trader change. Glyphs are made from:

Midnight (mageroyal, bruiseweed)
Lion’s (kingsblood, liferoot)
Jadefire (fadeleaf, Khadgar’s whisker)
Celestial (sungrass, blindweed)
Shimmering (golden sansam, dreamfoil, mountain silversage)
Ethereal (outlands)
the Sea (northrend)

and one from Blackfallow (Cat)

The bolded ones are your priority. A solid chunk of the most profitable glyphs will use these inks. The others are important, too, but much easier to find on the AH for a reasonable price. A stack of herbs will mill out to 10.8 pigments per stack on average. So, 2 stacks = roughly 11 ink.

The formula I use to determine glyph cost is (stack price)/10.8 x 6. Based on this formula, I get this cost table:

herb unit herb stack glyph cost
0.75 15.00 8.33
0.88 17.50 9.72
1.00 20.00 11.11
1.13 22.50 12.50
1.25 25.00 13.89
1.38 27.50 15.28
1.50 30.00 16.67
1.75 35.00 19.44
2.00 40.00 22.22
2.25 45.00 25.00
2.50 50.00 27.78
3.00 60.00 33.33
3.50 70.00 38.89
4.00 80.00 44.44
4.50 90.00 50.00

So, even at the nastiest herb prices, there is still profit to be made if you are selective. My no-brainer buy price is 1.5g per herb, or 30g per stack. I usually check the AH on my bank alt and buy up all of the herbs below my buy price (denying them to competitors) and ship them to my scribe so they are waiting in the mailbox when needed and not clogging up bags or bank space. In a pinch, cinderbloom and stormvine often sell for a low of 55g per stack, making them useful for ink trading for Ethereal Ink, which is by far the hardest to accumulate. Also, there’s the benefit of Inferno Ink that sells for ~90g on my server.

Then selling, where persistence pays. You need to make posting a habit, the undercutting is fierce. 3 or 4 times a day should get you some decent sales, and the remote AH is very useful for this (200 transactions per day for $3/mo.). Also, a lot of glyphs cycle in price, so set a floor that you will not post below, mine is 25g. Below that, I wait for it to come back up, there’s other ones to sell. My “make” price is 55g and above to allow for fluctuations, lower if the ink is common. Make at least 3 of each to have them ready for undercutting cycles. I usually undercut about 1% for glyphs under 100g, and more for over 100g. My arbitrary max glyph price is 150g, and I make quite a few sales at that price.

Simply using Lil Sparky’s Workshop and Auctioneer will show you what you can craft at a profit. The undercutting battles with glyphs ran me out of that market, but I still dabble in the higher end stuff.

I make 2k a day and don’t farm at all, but like I said, Jewelcrafting (and Alchemy transmutes) is the way to go.

DKP gets a bad rap about being too hardcore and such, but when done “correctly” or “nicely” it is actually a pretty good system. I’m not sure how often the need for alternate loot systems comes up anymore, but if DKP is too much, Suicide Kings is an excellent alternative. I believe wowinterface has a mod or two the help with the admin of it.