1987

Yes, I think that’s the point.

Like, for me, unless I upgrade my TV… being able to play games at higher resolutions is entirely pointless, because my TV doesn’t display higher resolutions.

So having a console that just gives me all the other graphical upgrades, storage upgrades, etc… but maxes at the resolution that my TV is already maxed at? That’s not a bad deal. Anything over 1080p is a total waste for me (and for a massive number of other consumers, I gotta think).

1988

I wonder what the market penetration of 4K TVs are at this point.

Edit: random google result says 31 percent. That’s lower than I would have expected tbh.

1989

Except for 1st party games EA and Ubi aren’t going to make two versions of games. If CPU limiting is an Xbox thing it’s going to trickle down to all games. It will just be PS5 exclusives that can really do different things.

1990

Old people watch a lot of TV. On the same TV they’ve always watched it on, at least since the digital switchover.

1991

Yeah, ~31% is reported from a few places.

https://www.nexttv.com/news/32-percent-of-us-tvs-are-smart-tvs

1992

1080p TVs began have been selling since the mid aughts. I still have my 1080p Panasonic plasma from 2008. Not in a rush to replace it, either.

My parents’ 1080p TV finally died last month. They bought it about 12 years ago, and used it heavily. They just bought a 65-inch 4K LG to replace it.

There’s not a lot of pressure to upgrade. Most TV is still in 1080p. Most movies (streamed or blu-ray) are still 1080p. TVs tend to last.

1993

I finally shelved my plasma a couple years ago. The difference in brightness is pretty dramatic.

The price of TVs have fallen massively - it’s pretty much the TV equivalent of Moore’s Law. You could easily get a low end 4K TV for $300 today. The average consumer is likely to spend (as a guess) more on a new laptop than a new TV.

1994

I’ve had my 55 inch samsung for around 10 years now. And really… it’s fine.

I feel like I’d be more interested in an OLED TV than a higher resolution LED TV.

But the thing is, my living room isn’t that big, so I can’t imagine myself getting a bigger TV. And at the distance I sit from my TV, at 55 inches… I kind of doubt I’d actually notice much difference in resolution anyway. So I don’t really need a 4k TV.

Maybe I could get a new one… but then I’m left with the question of what do I do with my current one, because I definitely don’t need another huge TV in the house.

Really? How big would it be? That seems dramatically cheaper than I would have expected.

1995

I bought our 4k 55" TCL for about that price from Sam’s less than a year ago.

edit: to be clear though, I totally didn’t notice the difference between 1080p and 4k at that size (the tv I had before was 1080p). We only upgraded because the plasma had lines going through it.

1996

I mean not getting a new TV is totally valid, it’s just that you’d almost have to deliberately not buy 4K at this point if you did. It’s really for HDR or OLED that the new TVs offer something better.

I imagine the market penetration of 4K TVs among potential console customers is much higher than the average household.

1997

Ya, I honestly am surprised at how cheap they are.

Certainly if I replaced my TV, I’d get a 4k TV, especially given the current price.

1998

I think you’re overestimating how often people buy a TV, on average.

1999

If you do get one, Timex, I predict the knocking off of your socks. I love my 4K tv and notice the hell out of it whether I’m sitting close or far away.

2000

Maybe… like I said, I feel like I’d be more interested in an OLED display, since it’ll have better blacks.

2001

Why not both gif mothafucka!!!

It’s a pandemic. Stimulate the economy, yo.

2002

The OLED tv’s seem to be closer to the price I was expecting, at around $1600.

2003

Do new tvs not have VRR too? Might not hurt for an S buyer.

2004

I wish this was actually the case. Most broadcast TV is actually either 720p or 1080i. Still. In 2020.

2005

A big reason why TV costs have dropped is that all modern “smart” Internet TVs are selling your personal information, such as watching habits, and selling ads on their screen. My parents’ new LG has (buried deep in the settings) a way to disable the selling of your personal info. But most people don’t know/don’t bother about that.

2006

As I noted in another thread I think, the move to a 4K Samsung Q70 last fall was a revelation for me coming from a really nice Vizio 2K panel that was like six years old.

Basically, if you’re poo pooing 4K and HDR in 2020, you probably haven’t looked at TVs in awhile so you don’t have any idea what you’re missing, and that’s especially true if you are a gamer.