2027

I get that there are dirty casuals who don’t see it and might scoff at technological advances, but here at Quarter to Three, we absolutely notice that shit.

2028

Apparently we don’t. It’s all marketing bullshit to the old men of Qt3.

2029

I am not your ally in this, rudeboy.

2030

I can see the difference easily on my 55in TV at about 8 feet. Even on games like Avengers where the “4k” mode isn’t full 4K. Just swapping in game the difference is pretty obvious.

My go to link on the topic: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/4k-resolution-201312153517.htm

2031

Nothing rude about it. This is typical Qt3 nonsense. It’s Trump-like groupthink in tech talk. “Well, I personally can’t see any benefit! That means it doesn’t matter!” It happens all the time here.

2032

Not at all, perhaps you have particularly great eyesight. Most people don’t.

2033

Or perhaps I’ve looked at new TVs in person in the last year while most here haven’t? Couldn’t be that. No way.

2034

Or perhaps it’s confirmation bias and you’re full of shit.

2035

Or perhaps you have a narrative you’ve been trying to spin here for months and I’m a thorn in your side because I don’t go along with your bullshit hook, line and sinker like so many others just because you’re a mod?

2036

no_u

BTW, I hope nobody treats me differently because I’m a mod. I never moderate anybody other than spammers.

2037

Yup. I can tell the difference on 4K, but it honestly doesn’t matter that much to me past HD.

It’s sort of like the fps debate. 30 to 60? I can totally tell. Anything past 60 and my give a crap drops off significantly.

2038

That’s what I thought. I’m done. I should have bailed on this place a long time ago. It’s the stusser show.

2039

I just said I would never even consider taking action against anyone for anything other than actual spamming, and you take that as cause to leave the whole forum?

It isn’t the stusser show, I’m just another poster here. Admittedly you can’t put me on ignore, but if you stick around I’ll stop responding to your posts. Did not mean to chase anyone away.

2040

Leaving a forum from a dispute about visual of 4K TV’s is far too 2020. Don’t let 2020 win!

To be honest most people have for decades (at this point) passed around these visual recognition charts for far too long. I do remember back when 720P to 1080P was still a thing people all over the internet loudly complaining that 1080P was pointless because you had to sit 3 feet in front of the TV in order to notice a difference. By that logic, aside from the growing size of TVs, we should still be using sub 1080P TVs.

Like that chart says that you have to be closer than 8 feet to notice a difference between 720P and 1080P (with a 42" screen)… i don’t really believe that. It’s reductionist math that doesn’t really account for motion and edges (pixelation is very noticeable in moving content and on edge transitions).

It’s similar, but not exactly the same, how PC only users really just don’t understand why anyone would want a 4K+ monitor, because they think all it does is make the screen smaller, when how Macs do it is increase the pixel density of the object.

I can tell a difference between 1080P and 4K for sure…though obviously it’s much less of a jump than from say 480P, but part of the issue is that, itself, there’s hardly any pure 4K content and most 4K content is upscaled. Unless you’re streaming in 4K - which is actually probably not happening unless you’ve set your streaming service specifically - or using a 4K Blu Ray player, or using a PC, or playing low poly high rez games, most people haven’t even seen pure 4K content.

2041

I find the difference between SD and 720 immediately obvious, SD is soft and blurry. 720p to 1080p is subtle but you can clearly see it, I find myself correcting YouTube when it drops to 720p for some reason. 4k I literally can’t tell a difference even on my 27" monitor 2 feet away in moving content. If I look closely and pause, yes, of course I see it. And it’s clear on static content like webpages, text is much clearer. But in a movie or videogame, not a chance. And I have 20/20 corrected vision.

That doesn’t mean my experience transfers to everybody, some people have better eyes or perhaps their brains interpret visual data better. That’s when I go to those charts that were posted in here.

2042

If this conversation is triggering you, I think that’s kinda on you.

Look, I can tell a diff in whiskey up to about a $30 bottle. After that… nope. Doesn’t mean I’m right that a $125 bottle is a waste of money. It just is for me.

2043

I definitely think the chart posted above is too conservative. It needs to be adjusted. There is definitely a point at which you can’t tell the difference between various resolutions at different sized screens and distance from the screen. The relationship is clearly correct, I just think you can tell the difference a little bit farther out than that chart’s current lines.

2044

Most of those charts are based on old fashion visual acuity tests and measurements. They only account for looking at a black and which vision chart across the room. They don’t account for things like emitted light vs reflected, motion, color, rendering artifacts, etc.

2045

Agree. Also, one definitely does not want to go cheap on Tequila.

2046

If you google that name, you’ll see that the guy who wrote this murdered someone last month. He must have been really, really upset about that TV.